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Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid (www.businessinsider.com)

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 171 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

~~Ukraine~~ United States is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid

The fact that everyone understands that the war in Ukraine is based on American backing means that it's a proxy war between the US and Russia.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 111 points 7 months ago

$773 billion dollars last year spent on fighting "proxy" wars around the world (and if you count the spying, domestically).

The only one that America has actual moral footing to get behind is the only one we are pulling punches on.

[-] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 43 points 7 months ago

Hardly the first time. I'd argue the US made the same mistake in Afghanistan in 2003, diverting resources to Iraq because Bush Jr. had such a hard-on for Saddam.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago

100%

With each passing day, Biden's administration looks like the Bush administration's bigger more right wing brother.

Citizens United needs to be overturned. The Pentagon budget needs to be at least halved. We need the 2 party system to end.

This will never happen if we keep voting for the lesser evil every 4 years.

[+] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works -7 points 7 months ago

I agree with the viewpoints, but many voted for the Russia supporting party, and noone else got enough support in the primaries. There needs to be massively increased primary involvement before a systemic change to move away from the two party system can be feasible. I'm a big fan of ranked choice voting myself, but what big party candidate is going to advocate for that in the current climate? I'm hoping changes can happen over the next decade as my generation and the one below get even more active.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social -4 points 7 months ago

Republicans are corrupted spoiled fucks.

Democrats are corrupted spoiled fucks.

How do you think "massively increased involvement" will occur if we keep throwing our votes at these massively corrupt spoiled fucks?

Peaceful abstaining. Quiet sit in. America on strike.

That is the only possible way we have to cause the change we needed at least 50 years ago.

[-] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I mean involvement of the voters themselves. I push a lot of my friends to just go vote, but they still won't. If you figure out how to get people to actually want to fix the situation, let me know.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

I know that in America, currently, "peaceful protester" is an officially classified terrorist group. That was what Occupy Wallstreet resulted in.

I have no idea what Blue MAGA is even suggesting when they say "get more involved in government outside of election season". The concept doesn't exist.

I definitely still vote on measures.

When my choices are vote for Genocide and continued severe loss of privacy of freedom A or Genocide and continued severe loss of privacy of freedom B, all I can figure is vote disenfranchised. Won't check the damn box.

Primary results where people did that have already gotten Biden change his half hour chit chat with Bibi from "your US taxpayer dollars are on the way. The weapons you are buying with those dollars are on the way" to "your US taxpayer dollars are on the way. The weapons you are buying with those dollars are on the way, try to go easier on the civilians in Gaza."

If Biden suffers a shameful and embarrassing defeat, maybe the next Democrat will figure out the correct answer is "fuck you Bibi, you genocidal maniac. Israel is cut off, that money will now be invested into fixing the healthcare crisis in America, our military is moving humanitarian aid into Gaza, and if your genocidal asshats so much as point a gun in the general direction of our soldiers and the starving citizens of Gaza, you will enjoy our crosshairs."

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I know that in America, currently, “peaceful protester” is an officially classified terrorist group. That was what Occupy Wallstreet resulted in.

The Cop City protestors are facing RICO charges right now for protesting a murderhog training camp; and they tried going after people out of state that contributed to the bail funds for those protestors. I'm not voting for a Dem ever again honestly.