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[-] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 80 points 7 months ago

Most homeless are in the big cities, most churches are out in the boonies. The homeless are very unlikely to accept being bussed to a flyover state to sleep in a church in bumfuck nowhere. For a myriad of reasons.

Keep in mind also that a lot of them have a very hard time accepting any help due to past trauma as well.

It's not a situation with a quick fix. Really the first step isn't even ensuring housing for the homeless, it's making sure we don't get more homeless. We likely can't save a subset of today's homeless because they don't want/or won't accept any help that comes with any strings (like no drugs or just they can't trash the place). But we can ensure no-one else ends up on the streets by beefing up mental healthcare and social services.

[-] exanime@lemmy.today 17 points 7 months ago

I can't tell if you are purposefully taking the post literally just to be able to shoot it down... But I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt

Just think of how many homeless people would actually refuse to live in any of these Mega mansions

Or better yet, imagine what these "churches" could do with the literal millions they spend in mansions and private jets to help the homeless... You know, if they actually care about that and were not just tax avoidance operations

[-] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 11 points 7 months ago

Since I'm not American I keep forgetting about your for profit churches. The concept is just too foreign to me. When I think church I think of 300 year old cold stone building in the countryside.

Still there are homeless that would refuse, some from not believing or trusting you, some from not wanting to relocate even if it means that level of comfort, some from being deep into addiction thinking that they'll be forced to get clean. And some will take you up on it and just absolutely trash the place trying to steal anything not bolted down.

That said the vast majority would for sure jump on it and thrive. So if it was at all possible to make happen it would be a good idea.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

America definitely has its old, historic churches, but they're far from common.

We have so many other kinds of churches, huge mega churches that essentially have a whole campus. Tiny churches in shopping centers. Growing up I went to a little church that was in the middle of an otherwise normal neighborhood.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

Megachurches are the minority of churches though

[-] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 7 months ago

I think you're forgetting that a lot of churches are small fellowships co-opting an office space or like the other commenter said, out in the middle of nowhere. This wasn't a post about mega churches, but it's a fair point.

[-] exanime@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago

No I get it, not all churches really can... Nor it is assumed a feasible plan that they may all perfectly distribute the homeless population.

The point is that most churches only talk the talk. I was raised Catholic and never participated in church that did anything more than collect money to donate (and for itself of course). Sure they had some activities and talked a lot about helping others but it seemed the expectations was that we would go out and do good on their behalf

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 7 months ago

I can’t tell if you are purposefully taking the post literally just to be able to shoot it down.

Most people here are taking the post literally. A smaller, not insignificant but smaller, number are reading satire/irony (regarding tax exemption) into it but that does not mean there is only one valid interpretation.

Pro tip, if you need to reject the majority reading of a rhetorical post in order to defend it, that’s an indication you might be the one who is approaching in bad faith. Either that or the post is indefensible and needs rewritten.

I happen to agree with your position too, but just be careful about calling that commenter out for something as benign as taking a straightforward text literally.

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