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[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Unfortunately and scarily, Russia is showing much of the same pattern as Germany in its most dark past, with the ruski mir looking more and more like the german lebensraum.

When you totally know what the lebensraum was.

The Nazis' lebensraum project wasn't just taking over a bunch of land in Europe, it was a settler colonial project inspired by the American policies of systematic forced displacement and extermination of the native populations under the doctrine manifest destiny.

Lebensraum was a pseudo-scientific racist theory formulated by pro-colonialism far right German thinkers, according to the lebensraum theory, a race needs a certain amount of space for themselves in order to attain their full potential and therefore need to take their necessary territory from "lesser" races by force. To summarise rapidly how it was developed, the German colonialists basically went "Look at America, they expanded to the west basically exterminating every native population in the way and replacing they with white settlers and now they're super rich and powerful, so if we exterminate a bunch of native populations, take over their land and put native Germans in their place, we should become super rich and powerful too".

The idea was put into practice in Namibia, then one of the German empire's colonies, resulting in the genocide of the Herero and Nama.

Fast forward a bit, Adolph Hitler was visited in prison by one of the main colonialist thinkers behind lebensraum theory and Hitler was rapidly convinced to adopt it.

And that's how was born the genocidal project of the Nazis in eastern Europe, just as their mentor the United States had rid "their" land of "lesser" north Americans natives to expand westward and make way for the "superior" whites, so would Germany rid eastern Europe of Jews and Slavs to make way for the "Aryans".

Now comes the question: is Russia doing any of that? Does the Russian government believe in and promote a theory that rank races to justify the extermination of "lesser" ones? Is Russia shoving Ukrainians (or anyone else) in concentration camps and "reservation"? Do they steal Ukrainians houses and invite Russian natives to go live in the stolen houses in Ukraine?

The answer to all of those questions is no. If you think it's yes you need to demonstrate it, saying "they look just like Nazis" without drawing any actual parallels between them is no better than saying "anyone I don't like is a Nazi".

The fact that all of russia’s puppet state demanded to join NATO (BTW: you cannot be invited it only works by writing an official demand to join and approval by all member state), is a revealing fact.

If a NATO country can somehow influence the elections and public opinion on NATO in those so called "Russian puppets", which they very much can, they can make sure to have pro-NATO politicians in power who will demand a NATO membership, that way they effectively force the country to join while making it look like it was voluntary.

As we saw in Ukraine, Russia does not need any reason to invade a sovereign nation (their reason for invading looking also stangely like german justification for poland invasion)

"Russia does not need any reason to invade[...] their reason for invading looking also stangely like..."

Look, if you're gonna spew bullshit, can't you at least keep it strait and somewhat coherent?

Putin didn't just wake up and decide he was feeling like invading something that day, whether you like it or not they had actual reasons to do it and the fact that you or I may or may not think those reasons are not legitimate does not matter since neither you nor I have a say in the Kremlin.

Also, once again you say "they look like Nazis" without showing why you think they look like Nazis. How are their reasons similar? Russia's stated reasons for invading are to prevent all of their western frontier neighbors to become part of a military alliance they deem aggressive to them and to stop the killing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas and Luhansk regions and overthrow the current far right government of Ukraine, how is that similar to the Nazi's excuses to invade Poland?

The countless horrors of torture, rape, murder and brainwashing by the russian state, seems to prove their reasoning right.

[citation needed]

That wouldn't be the first time the west has falsely accused an enemy of those things so I'm really gonna need a source for that.

I do not claim that the west is perfect, with the actions of the united states and other in recent times, but claiming that russia or china have clean hands would be outright hypocritical.

You claim that the west is systematically better than Russia, China and other countries that the west considers rivals or enemy (funny coincidence that those are all countries the west don't like isn't it) and when we demonstrate to you that this is bullshit since the west has literally done almost every single thing you accuse China, Russia, etc of, often in worst and more than once, you go "Ha but I think the west is bad too" so that you can continue pretending to be objective even after we expose you massive pro-west bias.

Thanks to the free press, the western world made their population aware of this wrong actions and helped steer them in the right direction.

The press in the west is not free, it's the private property of a handful of billionaires who, since they are their private properties, have complete control over what is or is not published in their outlets. I'd even say that given that the capitalists are the ruling class in the west, privately owned medias are really state owned medias with extra steps.

Not to mention the fact that western outlet are often in contact with organs of western governments, most notoriously with the CIA, who often dictate what the outlets should publish.

Just look at how they report on the genocide of Palestinians, does that look like fair and unbiased reporting to you? Those that look free pro Israel bias?

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

great analysis, comrade. i would like to point out though, that racist pseudoscience didnt start with the us, but rather that they were sadly able to inherit a quite rich tradition of this vile bullshit, ideas that were previously pushed by british intelligentsia. the idea of concentration camps was also arguably pioneered in america with the native american reservations.

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago

That makes sense

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