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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Arenge@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Shouldn't have said anything, now I'm getting paragraphs upon paragraphs about Putler and how the West has a moral obligation to prolong the war in Ukraine for as long as possible sad-boi

Also while apparently it can't be denied that the far right has grown somewhat stronger in Ukraine, the Ukrainian military had to rely on militias such as Azov so they wouldn't lose, we should not worry because they haven't seen that much electoral success

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[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Don't really disagree with much here.

But would it be wrong to say that a fairly significant difference is that while the Russian state is using fascist groups, in Ukraine it's the other way around and fascist groups are using and to some extent even controlling the state?

I dunno, but I just can't forget that classic video from before the invasion, where Zelensky was trying to get his (supposedly) own troops to stop shelling the eastern regions and they literally just laughed in his face and told him to gtfo.

[-] ingirumimus@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I mean, maybe at some level but certainly not enough to make one side worth supporting over the other. Like ElGosso mentioned, the best thing is going to be what minimizes suffering for normal civilians, and I don't think that supporting Russia is the best way to that goal

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

Russia does not have an overt policy of cultural genocide in place for people in the contested territory, Ukraine does. That calculus makes Russia the path to fewer casualties imo

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