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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 7 months ago

Does religion turn boys into men???

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 55 points 7 months ago

It's a Bar Mitzvah, the "you are now a man" ritual in Judaism.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Welcome to fundamentalist black and white thinking.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah like what the fuck are people on about in this day and age? Get your fairy tales outta here.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago

is the distinction between "boy" and "man" also a fairy tale?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 7 months ago

In the context of religion playing any part in it? Yes.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago

what is the acceptable boundary?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago

The acceptable boundary for involvment of religion in child raising is zero.

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

While every religion has its crazies (GTFO, orthodox & hassids), I found judaism to be far more critical and questioning than other religions that I’ve been exposed to. Literally the opposite of black & white thinking, a bunch of the religious texts are actually just arguments of different scholars (contemporaries of christ) offering opposing viewpoints and interpretations of older doctrines. (I’ve got an unfounded theory that this is why so many jewish people go into the study of law.)

That being said, I am not a religious person and despite being raised jewish, I now consider myself an atheist. Technically a satanist if we’re talking about giving my money to some kind of church.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Still, chanting at a magical fairy when you are 12 doesn't make anyone a man. It's an outdated tribal rite of passage at best, and a superstition with potential for horrendous implications in general.

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Definitely a tribal rite of passage in need of updating to remain relevant. I do take umbrage with the chanting at a magical fairy. That’s far more a chrisitian thing. But what are the horrendous implications?

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My guy it's just a ritual to signify the progression of age and a child becoming old enough to take on more responsibility and exert more autonomy of their choices.

You're way overthinking and projecting way too much on this.

Yes, religion sucks and is unnecessary, but this particular ritual is little more than an acknowledgement of growing older. It's basically "Jewish sweet 16."

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Shit I meant my other comment as a reply to the commenter one up the chain, not to you. Sorry for my error

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

The content made it seem that way. No worries.

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago
[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago
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