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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

No, I want you to explain your reasoning, you're the one who made it. please explain how marrying a black person is just like marrying your first cousin.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

There's nothing objectively wrong with either one. Both have been banned because they gross people out for purely social (bigoted) reasons.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Incorrect. One results in higher than normal birth defects that exacerbate over time, and one is perfectly healthy. We, as a society, should try to limit birth defects, no? Are you also in favor of bringing back thalidomide?

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Out of curiosity, are you chill with incest if the couple is incapable of biological reproduction? (They're the same sex, one or both has been sterilized, ect.)

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

incest is not something I'd call myself "chill" with.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[-] kinttach@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

It increases the risk of birth defects slightly but not as much as people seem to think.

a single first-cousin marriage entails a similar increased risk of birth defects and mortality as a woman faces when she gives birth at age 41 rather than at 30

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/there-s-nothing-wrong-with-cousins-getting-married-scientists-say-1210072.html

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

continued procreation within the family destroys the viability of the offspring eventually. This is not something to be encouraged.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The birth defects are on par with a woman over 30 giving birth. Want to ban that too?

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

that's not true, and false equivalencies only serve to make you seem more ridiculous. You're gross, and your kink is historically shamed because it destroys us a viable species. I feel sorry for the people in your life.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry, it was women over 34: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-07-cousin-marriage-older-mothers-birth.html

Facts. You just don't like it because of the ick, and the cognitive dissonance is making you angry. No one likes when it's pointed out that they're acting irrationally.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

look at you moving goalposts. go back to disappointing your family.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I just misremembered. But my point still stands. You want to ban women over 34 having children?

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

no, I don't. you seem pretty intent on trying to make me tho. banning first cousin marriages doesn't lead to us banning all pregnancies began after the mother is 34. you're using a logical fallacy of the slippery slope and it doesn't apply.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It's not a slippery slope, it's the exact same thing. The same excuse you use for banning incest equally applies to women over 34 giving birth. Banning that would not be a slippery slope, it would be an equivalence.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

no it wouldn't and that's your logical fallacy. banning consanguineous marriage does not mean banning all women over the age of 34 from giving birth. You're wrong.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Why do you want to ban consanguineous marriage?

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

wanting to ban first cousin marriages does not equate to banning pregnancies from woman aged 34 and older. How many times do you need this repeated to you?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Answer the question.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

One results in higher than normal birth defects that exacerbate over time, and one is perfectly healthy.

Are you for any law preventing people more likely than average to produce offspring with defects from reproducing, or just cousins?

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