This is the official hexbear Dune discussion thread (not really)
I watched the new Dune and enjoyed the films from a cinematic/fantasy perspective but wasn't super on-board with the politics as I thought the message was simply 'leaders bad', but what didn't come across (imo) from the movies and what I'm learning from discussion of the books is that the message is more nuanced than that: Herbert's message wasn't "don't blindly follow leaders because they're evil", but "don't blindly follow leaders because movements based on blind belief are a force of their own and can sweep everyone up into a mess, even if that was not at all the intention", and there are of course examples of that happening throughout human history. I want to hear all of your thoughts on the books, the films, and the messages. Thanks. 
The farther I read into the book series, the more .... stupid everybody gets or are shown to be. I'm still unsure if that was intentional or accidental on the writers' part.
David Lynch Dune is still the best Dune movie for my money, I'll fight you on it.
New Dune movie just didn't hit the same spot that the David Lynch Dune did. Haven't watched the second movie yet. Its been a while since I read Dune, but the book spent more time on other characters that made the universe/world of Dune more satisfying to consume. New Dune just ... I dunno... feels like it focuses so much on Paul and everybody looking at Paul that my brain keeps thinking "hey... did all the other characters read ahead in the script/book? 'Cause it seems like they shouldn't know that Paul is the main character of the show just yet..."
Have you seen the 2000 Sci Fi channel mini series? That's my fave.
No... I have not. Might have to keep that in mind to find.
Thanks!
The also cover Messiah and Children in a 2003 follow up.