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[-] Rossphorus@lemm.ee 76 points 11 months ago

Torvalds just really dislikes C++. He's gone on the record saying that he thinks it's just not a good language. In his own words "C++ is just a waste, there is no design at all, just adding some scum on top of C."

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 55 points 11 months ago

he's not wrong

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 33 points 11 months ago

In the specific use case of kernel programming, maybe. But the Standard Template Library is awesome.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

they dumped everything in the languaga, at least samething they needed to have right, it's otherwise statistically impossible

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The STD is maybe the only good thing C++ has over C, and even that is awful compared to other language’s standard libraries.

I can’t name another good thing C++ has. Maybe templates. C++’s reliance on inheritance for polymorphism is awful (should’ve gone with interfaces/traits).

Not to mention the mess with all the different types of constructors that must always be implemented.

It’s just a bunch of bad design choices added on top of an old outdated language.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

The STD is maybe the only good thing C++ has over C, […]. I can’t name another good thing C++ has. Maybe templates.

Are you high? I was praising the STL, you know, the template library?

[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with.

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

I would have agreed with that before C++11. But since then, C++ has improved a lot. Its like the vision of what C++ suddenly became more clear. So I wonder if Linus would still say that today. (Unfortunately, there have been a lot of missteps in the development of C++ though, and so there is a lot of cruft that everyone wishes was not there...)

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