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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Not a single self-proclaimed "liberal" politician in the West ever complains about how, by trying to pass itself as "The Jewish Nation", Israel has been slandering the image of all Jews, including those Humanists who happen to be Jews, a large part of them being highly educated Westerners who are very much the opposite of the old-style ultra-racist religious supremacists that dominate in Israel.

If there is one thing this whole situation has made painfully clear is that if indeed it's all about "shared values" as we've been hearing from Western politicians for decades, then the values they share must be those of racial supremacism, as they're clearly not Humanist values.

Unsurprising you see the likes of Germany choosing "good jews" from "bad jews" (like how recently a german university revoked and invitation to an American Jew professor because he had criticised the acts of Israel in Gaza), same as in the old days.

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, I've noticed a lot of No True Scotsman fallacy as well, where dissenting voices are determined to be "not true Jews" or "antisemitic, self-hating Jews". In December the US Congress passed a law that explicitly states anti-Zionism = antisemitism, even over the objections of many members (mostly Democrats) including Jewish member Jerry Nadler. Here's a short video of Nadler calling the bill "either intellectually disingenuous or factually wrong" and explaining how Jews he has represented oppose Israeli policy without being antisemitic. Netanyahu has stated multiple times that anti-Zionism (in context = opposition to his policies) is the exact same thing as antisemitism.

There is an official, governmental, international battle to standardize what Jews are allowed to think. It completely disregards the fact that Jews are like any other ethnicity in that they represent a huge spectrum of beliefs and moralities, from saints to villains and everything in between. It's been proven time and again that judging people based on genetics or birthplace/residence only leads to injustice and suffering.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As I said in another post, the real problem is the cohalition of closet racist supremacist that has formed around Israel, who simply support genocidal white supremacism and colonialism (and remember, Israel has been heavilly portratraying itself as a Western nation for decades, so they're treated as "whites" at least when it comes to a conflict with those deemed non-whites such as Palestinians)

The reaction of most of Western power elites has nothing to do with Humanism or treating people fairly (Jews or otherwise) and all to do with Racism, especially Islamophobia, so you end end up with shit like non-Jews deeming actual Jews as anti-Semite (the kind of "traitor of the race" slander that the Nazis so loved)

I suppose that, for anyboy who hasn't been really thinking about it and observing the theatre of Western politics with a skeptical eye, the biggest surprise is how Liberals - who have always portrayed themselves as anti-Racism - turn out to be heavy supporters of genocidal racist supremacism.

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[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

There's a lot of shit governments calling themselves islamic, christian, hindu nations. Smart people won't let themselves be baited by any of these fucks

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Couldn't agree more.

Maybe the thin, thin, "oh so thin" silver lining on this big black cloud which is the Israeli Genocide in Gaza and the behaviour of Western power elites with regards to it, is that more people with humanist principles who, because of being part of the majority etnicity in their country (thus unlikelly to have been the target of racism hence not quite as keenly alert to its many faces) let themselves be swindled by certain self-proclaimed anti-racist western elites, will become keenly aware of all the racial bating and profound racism still around us at the highest levels that's portrayed as natural and even as "positive".

Take away the bullshit that's been spinned around the subject in the West to make it "politically correct" and you get to the core, which is that judging or treating people differently because of their etnicity is racial descrimination, and doing it on the "positive" side is as much racial descrimination as on the "negative" side.

The NAZIs themselves didn't only do negative discrimination, they also did "positive" discrimination towards various favoured races, especially the Arian Race, so maybe people should be having a good hard look at the people with discourses excusing and supporting even the most evil of deeds of the governments of nations who are self-proclaimed representatives of "favoured" etnicities.

The entire mental architecture of racism is alive and well in the modern West, and in it's modern clothes it remains wrong, no matter how much some closet racists try and paint their kind of discrimination of judgement and treatment on racial grounds as "positive".

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