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As musicians, politicians and fans remember Sinead O’Connor, some Muslims are disappointed that the Irish singer and lifelong activist’s religious identity is not being highlighted in tributes.

UK police on Wednesday said the 56-year-old was found unresponsive in her London residence on Wednesday and that there her death was not being treated as suspicious.

Since the news of her death, Muslim fans of the 90s superstar have said her conversion to Islam, a cornerstone of her identity, was inspiring, but that some media reports have failed to note her religious beliefs in obituaries.

O’Connor, whose chart-topping hit “Nothing Compares 2 U” helped her reach global stardom, converted to Islam in 2018.

“This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian‘s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant,” the songstress tweeted on October 19, 2018.

At that time, O’Connor tweeted selfies donning the Muslim headscarf, the hijab, and uploaded a video of her reciting the Islamic call to prayer, the azan.

She took on the Muslim name Shuhada’ Davitt – later changing it to Shuhada Sadaqat – but continued to use the name Sinead O’Connor professionally.

One social media user said imagery of the singer without the hijab points to the glaring lack of Muslim reporters in newsrooms.

Meanwhile, some said that O’Connor was an inspiration for queer Muslims globally.

In 2000, she came out as a lesbian during an interview. But the singer, who was married to multiple men throughout her life, later said that her sexuality was fluid and that she did not believe in labels.

Some found joy in O’Connor’s conversion growing up, seeing themselves represented, while others, just learning about her Muslim identity at the news of her death, also took inspiration.

O’Connor was no stranger to controversy.

A lifelong nonconformist, she was outspoken about religion, feminism, and war, as well as her own addiction and mental health issues.

In 2014, she refused to play in Israel.

“Let’s just say that, on a human level, nobody with any sanity, including myself, would have anything but sympathy for the Palestinian plight. There’s not a sane person on earth who in any way sanctions what the f*** the Israeli authorities are doing,” she told Hot Press, an Irish music magazine.

Her iconic shaved head and shapeless wardrobe defied early 90s popular culture’s notions of femininity and sexuality.

In 1992, she ripped up a photo of Pope John Paul II during a television appearance on Saturday Night Live, vocal against the Catholic Church’s history of child abuse.

The late former star was also a firm supporter of a united Ireland, under which the United Kingdom would relinquish control of Northern Ireland.

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[-] joe@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

I have to admit that I always thought she was agnostic, if not atheist, from that Pope stuff.

I idly wonder why a gay feminist would convert to Islam. Aren't those things incompatible? Is this my ignorance showing? Are there sects of Islam that are more open minded, like there are sects of Christianity?

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

In short, yes, Islam varies a lot based on the actual community you're a part of. Few places are as extreme as Afghanistan, even if you look at other conservative theocracies. When you're looking at Muslim communities in Western Europe, it's a very different situation.

[-] joe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Well, TIL a few things. Thanks.

[-] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Additionally, most of the world's Muslims don't live in the Middle East or North Africa. South and and Southeast Asia combined have by far the largest Muslim population in the world. India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. And the way they practice Islam is quite different from the Middle East and North Africa. According to Wikipedia, there are about 241 million in Pakistan, 236 million in Indonesia, about 200 million in India, and 151 million in Bangladesh.

[-] livus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

And the way they practice Islam is quite different from the Middle East

Worth noting that fundamentalist Islam is exported from KSA, similar to how evangelical Christianity is exported from USA.

[-] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Only one brand of fundamentalist Islam is exported from KSA. There are a lot of brands including ones brought from Iran and Afghanistan not to mention whatever ISIS was doing.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I believe ISIS is Salafi, just like KSA. The Taliban were inspired by the Deobandi of India, who were extremely anti-colonist.

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[-] nikt@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

She herself seemed to lack this sort of nuance. She refused to play in Israel, for example, effectively accusing and dismissing an entire nation as oppressors.

I suspect she was, deep down, not a particularly reflective person. We all know people like these. Feel a feeling, act on it immediately, and maaaybe consider the implications and consequences later. Maybe. Or just double down, and never dare to truly look at yourself in the mirror.

It’s unfortunate because these types of people also sometimes turn out to be incredible artists. I assume it’s the combination of talent plus the ability (/curse?) to experience raw feelings much more strongly than the rest of us.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Mental illness.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

Yeah - her anger was directed at the church not religion. Wearing a hijab, however, seems completely irrational for a feminist. But doing something people don't expect to get attention and make people mad is definitely on-brand.

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Wearing a hijab, however, seems completely irrational for a feminist.

If it's her own free choice, I see absolutely no contradiction there.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I see absolutely no contradiction there.

Then I doubt that I could explain to you why it is.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you think its feminisn to tell a woman what shes should and shouldn't wear, I don't know what to tell you.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I'm not telling women to wear anything. Many militant islamists, however, have used hijabs to control women. Like it or not it's become a symbol of oppression as a result.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're insuinating that feminism is incompatiable with women choosing what they wear if it's a garment you don't approve of. Feminism does not tell women what they can and cannot wear. Furthermore you claim its a hate image despite millions of Muslim women saying it's part of their culture and not representative of a radical minority. How many women do you intend on speaking over in your persuit of "feminism"?

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Feminism is incompatible with sexism.

Something Islam teaches as a core concept.

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[-] Fylkir@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

You're insuinating that feminism is incompatiable with women choosing what they wear if it's a garment you don't approve of.

You could say the same thing about a Confederate flag though.

Not that I'm saying the two are comparable, but that it's not a very good argument.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You’re insuinating that feminism is incompatiable with women choosing what they wear if it’s a garment you don’t approve of.

What I'm actually saying is that wearing a garment that has been used to terrorize and oppress thousands of women is incompatible with feminism. Most religions are incompatible with feminism since they tend to preach that women are a second class that can't hold leadership positions.

She absolutely has the right to choose what she wants to wear. She choose poorly is all. It's like showing up to a wedding as a guest and wearing a bridal gown. You don't do it.

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[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It isn't "telling a woman what to wear" to call out it is logically inconsistent to champion the independence and equality of women, and also wear a sign of patriarchal theistic oppression.

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