191
Al Gore Thinks Trump Will Lose and Climate Activists Will Triumph
(www.nytimes.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2024
191 points (95.7% liked)
Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.
5237 readers
580 users here now
Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.
As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades:
How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world:
Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:
Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
When people let the news organizations do the thinking for them. Which is always.
The democrats lost the house in 2022, only news organizations can twist that into a victory.
We saw the same thing when Obama ran on free healthcare, legalized pot, pulling out of Iraq/afghanistan early, closing Guantanamo, etc, and instead did none of that, bailed out the banks who'd just kicked millions out of their homes, and lost the house and senate in 2010.
Media spin is what idiots listen to, because they’re too uneducated and/or unwilling to think for themselves.
You are right, Dems lost in those years you mention. But they lost because of idiot voters, not because of specifically those actions. Looking deeper than just Fox News or MSNBC would see that the majority of those issues were Dems trying to clean up Republican-made messes. As usual.
When you give people hope, and then either do nothing or the opposite of what people want, it's not "idiot voters" fault, it's the candidate's fault for not doing what the people you depend on to keep your job wanted.
The people Biden depends on want him to end the genocide. The people Biden depends on want cheap EVs/solar panels. It's not "idiot voters" fault when Biden doesn't do these things and fails to get reelected.
Political representation goes one way, the candidates do what their constituents want or they don't get elected. Republican politicians understand that, and that's why their voter base turns out at a higher rate, sadly their voter base is people who want to make everything worse.
You are living in a dream world then. Candidates do what the money tells them to do -- and it's been this way for 40+ years, exacerbated by the Citizens United decision. That's a huge part of the problem. But if the voter base had a clue in the first place, we would have better people in office by now. So yes, it comes down to idiot uneducated voters.
I wish you luck in your endeavors.
So you understand that the candidates do not represent the voters, but you still feel the voters have some obligation to vote for a candidate that does not represent them, and they cannot influence.
How do you reconcile these two thoughts?
Personally I just provide the analysis that "dems need to do to get elected", don't vote dem because they never do those things, and work for local orgs that occasionally make a difference.