Capitalists don’t care if we burn (lemmygrad.ml)

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I took it out of the meme to avoid seeming cluttered, but I must mention that they don’t just want USian corporations to have the monopoly. Renewables are at odds with capitalism and capitalists know oil is more lucrative than less labor intensive alternatives. Ted Reese makes a strong explanation for the lack of adoption of hemp and solar in SoE.

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[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The fact is, their power demands are rising, so they invest in and build coal power plants as much as no other country.

Of course, that's unfortunate. I'm critical of them and they could be doing better. However, have you considered why? It's western factories that go to China and produce our goods. The West's carbon footprint is effectively laundered through China. Also, speak for yourself. Genocide Joe over here keeps approving oil pipelines. Yet you set your malaise on China. They and the EU also keep increasing their military budgets sharply, and the US MIC has long been the greatest contributor) to the climate crisis.

I’m pretty sure it’s just for publicity

I love that your source here is nothing more than intuition.

So please remove this china-greenwashing post,

Lol, you've given me no reason to. While the West fails to meet it's pitiful Paris Climate Accords goals, China has more ambitious goals and is already far ahead of them.

It’s just a horrible place

Again, no evidence, absurd reasoning. If China's such a bad place why have they eliminated poverty and why are chinese living longer, healthier, and happier than USians? Why are at least 95% of Chinese happy with their government?

Edit: I somehow forgot to mention: how can China's green energy be just for show when the US has recently bemoaned their overcapacity?

[-] Haas@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

No, you don't understand. Decades of imperialist propaganda has taught me that China is BAD, and everything that they do is BAD, so how can they possibly do something GOOD? Checkmate

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

I should point out on the energy front that while they're building more fossil fuel plants, they're decommissioning older, less efficient ones, and building nuclear reactors to take over long term. Coal plants only take a few years to build compared to nuclear plants 20+, so there isn't actually much better they can do while meeting their (and as you point out, the west's) energy needs.

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[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Again, you think China is investing hundreds of billions for show?

China has basically no human rights, they fucking paint grass green so they can pretend to reach their goals.

Largest afforestation in the world by far is “painting grass green” to you.

They have laws, forbidding to collect cooking oil out of trash cans and the sewers.

The horror, how could anyone live in a dystopia like that. Worst law ever.

They systematically disappear Uyghurs to off site facilities

It’s called peaceful terrorism prevention. They had a handful of terrorist attacks and Wahhabism had spread from China’s neighbors, so they educated and developed that area rather than shooting anything that moves. This approach has made lots of progress and the program is over.

And do you think as a Chinese citizen you would criticise the government in a servey if literally everything you do is monitored, everywhere you go in a city is filmed by cameras, every app in the app store has to be approved by the government?

That’s projection from the US and UK where it’s much worse.