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Over 1,000,000 Iraqis died in the war Bidens son valiantly slaughtered in.
Why do we respect state sanctioned murderers lives yet disregard the victims of imperialism?
This one is pretty consistently low quality. I doubt they're being remunerated for this work
Instigating trolling, repeatedly, isn't a good look. Banned for 24 bours, content removed. Do better.
You’re right.
Soldiers are the good guys ™, the invasion of Iraq was just, and Guantánamo Bay was an act of patriotic duty.
Please, tell me why anyone should respect these “just following orders” soldiers?
Why do we get to wash away the crimes they committed to honour and respect them?
Should we show respect for the dead Nazi or Japanese soldiers during WW2?
Do you people all have short term memories or are you deliberately forgetting the war crimes and how needlessly fucked up the US led invasion of Iraq was?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/03/iraq-20-years-since-the-us-led-coalition-invaded-iraq-impunity-reigns-supreme
Defend it more, you’re such a hero. God bless the troops, thank you for your service.
Take one second out of your life and actually reflect on what you are defending here. It’s legitimately fucked up.
Yeah sorry, unlike you I don’t excuse crimes against humanity.
So don’t expect me to stop just because it goes against your propaganda that all soldiers are heroes.
That number is incredibly misleading.
how so? or is this just a 'trust me bro'.
Because it's not that high. 34,144–71,544k military casualties and 103,160–113,728k civilian deaths during the entire 8 years 8 months.
That includes fighting extremists like ISIS and deaths caused by Iraqi security forces (post Saddam) who also have the most casualties on the coalition side.
Many more died due to extremists groups like ISIS outside of the war. If count that then maybe you start to creep up. But I don't think it makes any sense to blame the US for what ISIS and other groups did.
To add on to that the invasion phase itself caused 30k military deaths and 7k civilians.
Just cus you seemed to have missed it.
Okay here you go.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
I mean it's not like we all have access to the Internet and can verify these numbers at any time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
Sure, but its your claim. Thanks.
So from your own sources:
Lancet survey** (March 2003 – July 2006): 654,965 (95% CI: 392,979–942,636)
Iraq Family Health Survey*** (March 2003 – July 2006): 151,000 (95% CI: 104,000–223,000)
Opinion Research Business**: (March 2003 – August 2007): 1,033,000 (95% CI: 946,258–1,120,000)
PLOS Medicine Study**: (March 2003 – June 2011): 405,000 (60% violent) (95% CI: 48,000–751,000)
So keep in mind those numbers don't include the entire time frame of the war. Two stars for violent deaths, three stars for excess deaths.
So very very easily well over a million deaths due to the US invasion, considering those studies don't even consider the entire time frame of the war, since the US didn't withdrawal until 2021, and excess deaths almost assuredly increased in rate over the period of occupation.
But they don't have to back up their 1 million claim?
It literally says 1 million in the quote above.
He edited it after.
You posted the article they quoted from.
Did you not even read what you posted to support your claim?
It says that claim with a billion asterisk which blame every bad death on the war lol. And it's very far out from the other numbers.
At what point is it also all the terrorists groups and militias faults?
Ask them for it. They should.
You're absolutely right in general.
But:
Humans are generally very good at personally relating to things, but poor at global relations
source for those numbers?
Hey that's not fair. They also raped, pillaged and tortured Iraqis in that war