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I have to say, I find it weird how focused Americans are on dress codes in offices. In Germany that's pretty much not a thing, unless you have direct contact to customers (bank teller, etc).
Granted, as a developer standards are lax anyway, but I don't even own a dress shirt or suit.
Could you get away with whatever you went to sleep in though? That's the advantage of WFH. Get up, do your work, don't bother getting dressed unless there's a meeting. If you need a shower and a change, you can do it on your break.
I agree that American office dress codes are bullshit, but being allowed to be as comfortable as you like in your clothes is, I am guessing, frowned upon even in Germany.
I worked a hybrid schedule. I didn't bother getting dressed until the other half of the day I went into the office. And I was more productive at home because I was more comfortable in every way including the fact that I could just do my work in boxers and a T-shirt.
Not getting dressed at least somewhat is a sign of depression.
When I still went to the office, I wore the exact same cloth I would wear when I was just going outside. Clean, not significantly more holes than intended.
Nonsense. It's a sign of comfort. Why should I get dressed if I don't have to go anywhere? I'll get dressed if I need to go somewhere.
It can be either. Things like thar absolutely are warning signs of depression, and ignoring that is dangerous. Doesn't mean everyone (or even the majority) of those that do have depression, but that doesn't change that it is a warning sign.
That's fair, but this other person seems to think it's my duty to get dressed in the morning from the continued conversation I'm having with them.
You get up and work. Unwashed, dirty clothes. That's not comfort, that's concerning.
And yes, you and your clothes are dirty after sleeping in them. You sweat about half a liter every night.
Okay? Your clothes are dirty after wearing them all day too. I shower and put on clean clothes before I go to bed.
... And then you sleep in them, thus making them dirty. That's not that hard.
Why do you care so much about what I do? If you don't like my hygiene habits, stay away from me. This should not be difficult for you.
I'm American and that describes my job experience across 3 industries pretty closely:
first industry, sometimes client-facing: polo/dress shirt
second, client-facing: suit and tie, clean shaven (I quit this one pretty quick)
third, rarely talk to clients virtually: don't look homeless. I wear a hoodie most days I'm in the office and once didn't shave for 3 months