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You are definitely not a lawyer, and the people backing these bills intentionally use language that creates a specious justification for the erosion of privacy and freedom online.
This bill will require everyone to start using their government ID to post just about anything online, while allowing state AGs to censor basically anything they want in bad faith.
The Heritage Foundation, a right-wing hate group, has already made clear that they will use this to censor any/all LGBTQIA+ material.
Here is a lawyer providing a more detailed thread explaining the issues with this bill.
Correct, but there's no need to be rude.
Let's take a look at what Ari Cohn is arguing:
Yeah, that was part of what I originally wrote and then had to delete. In retrospect I should have just split it and made replies. Oh well.
The bill mentions:
So there isn't necessarily a plan for Real ID out of the box, the study would have to be conducted to determine feasibility of what age verification method would be best. I understand the concerns about sharing your personal ID online. It could very well come to a conclusion that the algorithms already in place are plenty good enough to determine what age someone is likely, how my FYP on TikTok is filled with Millenial content just based on what content I liked. But sure, the possibility of having to register your personal ID with every social media company doesn't sound too appetizing.
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I think we'll just have to wait and see how tech companies implement this and how it's enforced. Even the study is, as the letter points out, just guidance and not enforceable and can be ignored. The bill itself contains very little beyond saying that it doesn't explicitly enforce "age gating" and extra data collection to determine age.
Also, as the letter itself points out
Would it be impossible to create separation between sites used by older teens and adults? A lot of it happens culturally anyway. I'm not as pessimistic as others are about this.
Obviously it's not impossible, it just requires sites to obtain a verifiable proof of age, i.e., a government ID.
A lot of pathological optimism in this thread, and it might not impact you (at first), but the document you're quoting explains why a lot of people are concerned:
Not disagreeing with you but where are you quoting that from? I don't see it in the letter. Am I looking at the wrong thing?
Also there is the provision to not censor anything that minors search for. I'm not saying the law is perfect mind you but
Oops, you're absolutely right about the attribution, the quote I posted above is from an earlier letter, I had too many open at once.
Unfortunately, the provision you mention is essentially a bad-faith attempt to skirt the first amendment objections, while leveraging the imposed 'duty of care' to allow State AGs to censor with impunity. From p.6 of the more recent letter: