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Ideally, you would be running a train instead of a bus. The train stops in the middle of town, which is a thriving mixed use area of medium density residences, corner stores, and restaurants. Everyone can walk to the train station.
You expect people to walk to a train station? Have you seen how far apart everything is in rural areas?
Hi, yes please, Id like to walk two hours to get on a train, and I like to walk two hours to get back home when do. And thats assuming you live fairly close to town, within 5 or 6 miles or so.
People have been walking through rural areas for 12,000 years. Because that's how long ago agriculture was invented.
Except you know, horses.
Also, we have cars now.
And its not 12,000 years ago.
There is zero point in getting in walking two hours to a train station when you can just drive there.
One of those options emits carbon and drives humanity closer to extinction and one doesn't. Do you prefer the time saving convenient genocide, or walking?
Mate, so long as we ship plastic across the pacific, cruises still exist, and execs fly private planes, thats a non-starter.
Further more, those buses would run empty most of the time, causing more emissions than if people just drove. Have you even been to rural America?
That's why we should have electric trains going to every rural community
Electric trains still have emissions. Not just power, but maintence as well. Overhead lines go down, pantographs leave metal dust everywhere, hell even just normal rail maintence.
Theres a reason why all the American passenger lines went bankrupt, and why Amtrak is funded by the government and still struggling.
And the best part is you'd spend a trillion dollars running lines everywhere, and almost no one would ride it.
Edit: its costs 75,000 dollars per year per mile to maintain electric track. Its completely unfeasible. http://rockymountainrail.org/documents/RMRABP_CH7_OperatingCosts_03.2010.pdf
Did your dumb ass really just pull numbers from the Rocky Mountain Rail Authority, a rail planning committee trying to figure out how to make a train from Denver to Vail and say their numbers are equal to what the rest of the country would experience?
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read and I’ve read several other comments of yours that are close to it.
Its the first one i found that gave actual numbers.