It's interesting what alcohol has done to people I know since years (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by Grogon@lemmy.world to c/casualconversation@lemm.ee

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Good morning.

I am 31 and I scrolled through the pics on facebook from ten years ago and looking at current pictures of people I have no or barely contact to these days and I gotta say I am glad I hopped off that boat a few years ago.

Most of the people I know and hang out with back then were in the "Turbojugend", kind of a fanclub of Turbonegro and all they (and I) did was get wasted to punk music. Looking back it was fun and don't regret my early 20s but I am so glad I am not that person anymore.

I still have contact to a few of them and most of them are now 35+ year olds and still drink, party the same way they(we) did ten years ago.

It seems like they are having a blast but I noticed nothing changed. They are the same people they were ten years ago. I noticed it this weekend when I decided to go out to party again and oh man it was enough. I left four hours into the party. Since I don't think the whole experience was wack. Drunk people yelling in my ear "REMEMBER BACK THEN? THOSE WERE THE YEARS" etc. some dude licking my cheeks smelling like he puked 20 minutes ago (he did) and other people yelling they got erection (song from Turbonegro).

If I look at the pictures they post every weekend I see exhausted people and emptyness. It's actually so sad.... dunno I don't want to shame them, they are enjoying their lives.

It's just crazy what alcohol does and the thing is, in this group "Turbojugend" alcohol is so normal. It's really crazy.

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[+] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 6 months ago

I don't want to criticize you or your opinion; your views are entirely valid.

I just want to get this off my chest: I am sick and tired of people who want to "grow". Unbound, needless growth is the attitude that brought us into climate change. I would rather have people waste themselves every weekend, than people who put "growth" about everything else.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Growth at all costs is bad. Slow, steady growth is natural and encouraged. The economy grows, but so does a forest. Something as broad as "growth" should not be characterized in a singular way like you're doing, especially when you seem to consider natural growth to be "unbound" and "needless", when it is not.

You should rest, but you should not stagnate.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think there's kind of a difference between growing as a person, emotionally, intellectually, interpersonally, etc, and growing as a species and building as much as we can as big as possible. Those aren't the same thing, and one of them comes with consequences for the world and humanity where the other does not...

It seems odd to me to lump them together