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[-] MamboGator@lemmy.world 71 points 7 months ago

DBZ has the best villains-turned-allies. I don't think any of them could be considered morally "right" though, so I guess that means Piccolo, Vegeta, Yamcha and Tien all have dumptruck asses in canon.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 50 points 7 months ago

Vegeta is like a little space hitler jr, has committed multiple planet wide genocides and his father King Vegeta wouldn’t have had it any other way.

[-] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

lit is shown that Frieza demands this, enslaved the saiyans and have pushed them to do his bidding. From what I remember, we pretty much get 0 saipan history pre-frieza minus GT and that's not canon.

All this to say "he was just following orders" holds up until maybe the cell saga. On namek I can give the man a lot of trauma and brainwashing and child soldier mulligans. Saving cell and letting millions suffer AFTER he's 'rehabilitated' and then does it again for Babidi, THAT makes him a space Hitler Jr

[-] Enkrod@feddit.de 10 points 7 months ago

But he's got a great mustache

[-] MamboGator@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

That's why GT will always be canon to me instead of Super.

[-] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I can respect that hot take.

[-] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago
[-] exocrinous@startrek.website 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Have you considered The Owl House's reformed villains? It has 8 of them.

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

a lot of DBZ chars have low key dumptrucks mainly because they have otherworldly glutes

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