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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Ex-Democrat, reported contender for Trump running mate, sued Clinton for Russia remark but dropped case

Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democratic congresswoman, has repeated a discredited claim about Hillary Clinton that previously saw Gabbard lodge then drop a $50m defamation suit in a new book published as she seeks to be named Donald Trump’s running mate for US president.

Accusing Democrats of making up “a conspiracy theory that [Trump] was ‘colluding’ with the Russians to win the election” in 2016, Gabbard claims: “Hillary Clinton used a similar tactic against me when I ran for president in 2020, accusing me of being ‘groomed by the Russians’.”

Gabbard ran for the Democratic nomination. Clinton did not accuse her of being “groomed by the Russians”.

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[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

Bill Clinton and Co were as homophobic as the rest of them.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Of course he was, he's a skirt chasing country boy from Arkansas, however, he was at least compassionate enough to open some of those doors for our LGBTQ allies, DOMA was shitty legislation but after it's passing many other steps were made to help these folks.

I'm not sure how old you were in '96, but I was a Jr in Highschool at the time, most people still used "fag" and "homo" to joke around about stuff still. We only had two completely out gay dudes in my highschool, I was cool with both of them and knew them through some girls that we all were mutual friends with. At one point some of the more "white trash/racist kids that I'd already had a problem with started harassing these gay dudes pretty constantly and pretty aggressively and the girls we were mutual friends with got my friends and I to handle the situation for them, we out numbered the homophobes by quite a bit and they chose not to fight at that time.

Now mind you, this is on Long Island, just a short train ride to NYC, the Village, and Stonewall, and Pride parades happened each year at this point, so while there were only two out gay dudes in my school most likely many of us had a LGBTQ person we knew back then that was out. Now imagine how this situation would have gone down back in '96, in Arkansas, I can tell you exactly how it would go down based on my experiences living in Florida during the early 90's as well, but also by how it would go down even now in Arkansas.

So sure saying Clinton was as homophobic as the rest in 1996 is pretty much saying that water is wet, most people were ignorant, and even worse many of us still believed the HIV based homophobic conspiracy theories, because AIDS was a huge problem at the time.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

In '96 I had already been out for 11 years. Clinton wasn't compassionate, he used my community as props for his election, like Obama did for his reelection

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile the Right loves to call Michelle a man, but both sides are the same amirite? I'm just saying both Clinton and Obama are absolutely more accepting of homosexuality than their right wing counterparts, whatever bias you may feel towards them, that should be clear, because the other side wouldn't want to use you, hell most of them just want to end you, so maybe keep that in mind for some perspective.

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