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[-] relevants@feddit.de 9 points 6 months ago

"Ha, you have nowhere else to go! We can do whatever we want"

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago
[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Joining the Face Eating Leopard party is a fucking stupid alternative. Pushing for rank choice voting in their local and state elections to normalize 3rd parties is what can change things.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Not supporting the face nibbling party does not mean you're joining the face eating party, it means the face nibbling party needs to make real steps to stop nibbling on faces to get your vote back.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

In a two party system where both options bad, voting against the option that wants to end democracy is your clearest route to one day electing a progressive. Not voting allows for one more vote for the guy that wants to end democracy to not be negated; to which point you’ll never have to concern yourself with voting again.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

What a stupid system. No wonder America sucks.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Not sure which party you mean is saving democracy. The one suing to keep green party off state ballots, and that refused to primary a candidate with a 33% approval rating, or the other one.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

I’m talking about the party that DID NOT send insurrectionists to the capital to attempt to keep their wanna-be-dictator in power after he lost. I’m talking about the party that does not want to end voting, that has forgiven some student debt, that hasn’t intentionally shifted more wealth to the richest among us, that wants to keep the EPA around so that there might actually be a future.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago

Trump, they're talking about Trump obviously. To read it any other way is disingenuous and if you genuinely think they may have been talking about Biden then you're delusional.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Trump should be in prison along with all of the insurrectionists from January 6th. He shouldn’t even qualify to hold office at this point.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

The entire supreme court disagrees with you.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

The Supreme Court agrees that a single state doesn’t get to change a presidential ballot. The GOP’s candidate is in fact a criminal and should not be on the ballot for that alone; but that’s the best they can bring to the table.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

If there are no charges there is no crime

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

I guess you forgot about the E. Jean Carrol case that he was found guilty in. That’s just one… I like my presidential candidates to not have criminal records.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

Keeping up his hard sometimes I know, but this thread was about the supreme Court decision in regards to keeping him on the ballot.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Tunnel vision eh? Another horse with blinders. My statement yesterday was that the GOP should have put up a candidate without a criminal background.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

And the DNC shouldn't be offering up a candidate that's enabling ethnic cleansing.

Your original comment specifically mentioned ballots

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And you’re mentioning the outcome of a Supreme Court decision that never happened. Don’t worry about the Great Replacement; you and the rest of your ilk of degenerates will still be able to find a seat at the back of the classroom indefinitely.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago
[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

No, not that decision... this one is where the courts decided that individual states cannot remove him from the ballot. Where was this supreme court decision you mentioned that they decided he should not be in prison? You are clearly confused.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

I never claimed SCOTUS said he shouldn't be in prison. SCOTUS rules on constitutionality of law, not criminal cases

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

There’s also that pesky little $454 million dollar guilty verdict around the fraud case too.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

Again, absolutely nothing to do with this thread

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

The leopards eat everyone’s face if they win. And in a first past the pole election, sitting out helps them eat all our faces.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 months ago

The leopards win either way.

Holding them to account is the only way to change things.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago

Can't simultaneously hold them accountable and go to brunch

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago

This really depends on what you mean by "not supporting" - are you speaking out against them, primarying them, advocating for better policies? I'm with you 100%... the issue is the camp that decides to protest vote Trump or not participate in the general election.

Our voting system is broken and in the general election your choices are Trump or Biden.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

2 of the areas where RCV has been approved got sued to keep the choice off ballots.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That's not exactly how it works. People could get motivated to run for office and actually start changing the makeup of the Democrats. The leadership we have today stems from a very long of complacency. And our choices may be functionally limited to two groups. Their makeup isn't so limited.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

There is no changing a system that's operating as designed. The only effective change will come from dismantling the DNC as a political party and allowing a new party to take its place.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Spoken like someone either ignorant to how things work. Or vested in them not working.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Anyone with a basic understanding of how it works would oppose it. It's an abusive good cop/bad cop relationship. In the end they are both cops sworn to uphold the white supremacist laws this country was founded on.

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