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submitted 6 months ago by nac82@lemm.ee to c/casualconversation@lemm.ee

I just want forums to chat about current events, argue about stupid fandoms, and bicker with internet trolls. Reddit used to be that, and I had hopes for Lemmy, but everything here is choked to death by over moderation that has nothing to do with keeping healthy communities. It's just thinly veiled echo chambers that don't want to admit what their community is about.

This is coming off a ban over disagreeing with vegans calling dietary disagreements the same as racism. The dude literally said different species were similar to humans having different races. I called that 1800s slave owning theory racism if I've ever seen it lmao.

I know people dont care for internet drama, I just wanted to rant. The internet of tomorrow fucking sucks.

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[-] nac82@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Rude attitude is worthy of a ban? Why are none of the rude shit talking vegans in that thread banned? And the other dude has a screenshot of my statements. What are you saying was rulebreaking civility rules?

None of my statements were attacking anything except for racist ideology.

I have no problem admitting I was being rude, the initial topic was about people enraged by the slaughter of a dolphin, and some vegans decided that was the time to shit talk people's diets in response. I was rude to people being rude.

But I never broke civility rules and was never more egregious than the vegans I was responding to.

Seems kinda like exactly my point that being rude to rude vegans being enough reason to perma ban somebody from a news sub on this site, and how that will choke this site to death.

[-] SteveXVII@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

None of my statements were attacking anything except for racist ideology.

It seems to me that amzd compared speciesism to racism, specifically to condemn speciesism, and by extention factory farms. Not to condone racism.

The step you need, to go from "racism is wrong" to "speciesism is wrong" is to extend your circle of compassion to all sentient animals and not just humans.

This is a direct quote from them that this is based on.

[-] nac82@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I'm not here to debate the validity of cherry-picked portions of their statement. Feel free to respond to me in that thread on that topic. Then you might understand my rant about pointless bans here. I was fully willing to engage in a good faith debate on this topic in the place where it was happening.

I'm here venting and now justifying my vent to you. You were claiming I was uncivil, and I'm asking you to point at my uncivil statements.

As a sign of good faith, I'll point out that the debate on veganism wasn't being fairly input to the thread. The reason I gave half assed responses was that they were attacking people unjustly to begin with.

Veganism is a complex topic ranging from food scarcity to eating habits. I'm an advocate for veganism and participate in 3 vegan days a week. Both me and my wife come from heavy meat cultures and do not find it so simple a habit to beat.

But even when I pointed out they didn't know my stance on veganism, they were still assholes at a personal level.

So please go continue the conversation on veganism with the rest of the circlejerk where I am banned.

I would prefer the focus of this post be about how unrelated moderation is stifling this site to death.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 months ago

So please go continue the conversation on veganism with the rest of the circlejerk where I am banned.

Sounds reasonable. The discussion already happened once, there is probably no need to have the same argument here.

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