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Why the Swedes love doing something that Americans hate (www.bbc.com)

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Sweden is infamous for having some of the highest taxes in the world, and yet the country's tax agency is still one of Sweden's most trusted institutions.

The Swedish attitude towards tax contrasts sharply with many countries where taxes can be a deeply divisive issue. We investigate what this says about Swedish society and how the popularity of the welfare state might survive growing challenges in the future.

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[-] Magister@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Same in Canada, at least Quebec, 50% of my taxes go in health care system, I have no family doctor, all doctors are millionaires, nurses make 100k+, people dies in ER after 48h waiting

Education system is a joke. Teachers earn 100k+ too

Roads are potholes

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not many physicians make over a million, and the way provincial governments have set up the bureaucracy around healthcare feeds the high wages, ie: it's not the nurses caring for patients that are making $100k per year.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

About every specialists make 1M

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

How much of that goes right back to med school loan repayments?

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Canada =/= USA, it's cheaper. A lot of that money goes to personal insurance IIRC

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Do you have any sources for that?

[-] Magister@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

Of course, most are in French, but easy to find any info on this, for instance this 2022 article https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2022/10/18/pres-de-300medecins-millionnaires

Ophtalmologiste 2 603 027 $

Chirurgien général 2 442 354 $

Ophtalmologiste 2 166 048 $

Ophtalmologiste 2 116 473 $

Interniste 2 022 137 $

Radiologiste 2 017 941 $

[-] Magister@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

even generalist doctor are millionnaire https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/11/09/pres-de-270-medecins-millionnaires

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

In 2021 (the year your article is about) there were 21,176 physicians in the province and 294 made 7 figure salaries. That amounts to less than 1.2% of physicians.

So not all physicians make a million dollars, not even a lot of physicians make a million dollars. It is rare that this happens.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

people dies in ER after 48h waiting

How often does that happen?

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tbh even once is too often. And it has happened all across Canada.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

people dies in ER after 48h waiting.

How often does that happen?

ooften.And it has happened all across Canada.

I'm trying to get a feel, as someone who does not live in Canada, as to how often this actually happens. If it's really an urgent issue, or more hyperbole than anything.

Could you elaborate further on how often this actually happens?

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Because Canada's universal healthcare is funded by the feds and provinces, but administered by the provinces, numbers are not available. But I did find an educated guesstimate from this source put together by two Canadian physicians.

"The extra deaths caused by emergency department crowding are so rarely counted because it's hard to pinpoint the crowding as the proximate cause of the death. But when you look at populations and population-level data, you clearly see excess hospital deaths when emergency department crowding is worse," he said.

He and colleague Dr. Paul Atkinson from the department of emergency medicine at Dalhousie University in Halifax tried to put a number on what they called a "hidden pandemic" of harm.

They used a formula devised by the U.K. Royal College of Emergency Medicine and The Economist to assess the increased delays in moving patients out of the ERs into the hospital beds in that country.

The U.K. data suggested that between 260 and 500 patients a week may be dying in excess of what would be expected when ERs are crowded.

"If you do simple multiplication based on our population, you would find that over a year, somewhere between 8,000 and 15,000 patients are dying in Canada because of emergency department crowding," Worrall said.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thank you.

Edit: Jebus, 'Thank you' gets downvotes? Man, tough room. /adjustsshirtcollar

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

You're very welcome.

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