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[-] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago

Communism is a bit different than what those “communist” countries had. If anything it was socialism, but that still doesn’t fit completely. These “communist” countries are just one-party states in which the government controls the economy. The idea of putting the working class in power is useless if you create a government that can make decisions against the opinions of the working class. Socialist one-party state ≠ Communist democracy

[-] Gigan@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

Do you have a real-world example of a successful communist state? Because you may not like it, but those "communist" countries are humanities best attempts at enacting communism and they resulted in millions of people dying.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Communism only works on paper because it assumes that the people in power are going to just happily share everything equally. Humans don't work that way, we're selfish, greedy, and will hurt others to get ahead. There is no difference between a capitalist and communist leader. They both live better, eat better, make more money. There's no equality there

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Humans do work that way. In the wake of disaster, and tragedy, and scarcity, we see people sharing resources and helping each other.

It's the sociopaths who seek power that don't work that way. The biggest success of capitalism is that the sociopaths have normalized their behavior and cast kindness as a flaw or disorder.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Humans do work that way. In the wake of disaster, and tragedy, and scarcity, we see people sharing resources and helping each other.

And also opportunists that will take the opportunity to loot and steal, then happily abandon anyone behind them still in the disaster.

If your baseline assumption is reliant on people doing… well, much if anything outside of being self serving it will break down fast.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That is exactly the sociopathic propaganda I mentioned, that simply isn't backed by evidence, but casts people with empathy as ignorant.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

It’s not propaganda to acknowledge shitty people exist and will try to take advantage of any situation, it’s just basic reality when you’re out from behind a keyboard.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

It's not propaganda to acknowledge they exist.

It's propaganda to normalize sociopathic behavior as the appropriate response to sociopathy.

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