Luddites were against automated looms because they thought it'd destroy the careers in the industry.
They were right, it's just that working a loom was a small enough part of the economy that it didn't really matter.
AI is like that, except for every creative or technical career in every industry. It promises to replace all jobs where people are provided creative or intellectual challenge. Nearly every middle class job. Assuming that LLM providers can actually deliver on their promises. But why do we even want to allow them to try?

The owner class gets the lions share of the benefits and none of the drawbacks. The middle class gets almost no benefits, meanwhile their wages get suppressed and the job market gets wrecked.
Even if you're right and this will create new industries, which I'm skeptical of, displaced workers need to retrain at their own expense. How many people, in the middle of their careers and with families, can afford to just start again in a new industry with entry level salaries? And do you know how tough it is for an older person to advance in a new career?
And even then, even if people could afford to switch careers mid-life; where are those careers? Those hypothetical new industries are going to take decades to mature let alone to even be created in the first place. How much unemployment do you think the economy can stand up to for decades?

It's suspicious because you seems like you have a vested interest in AI or in making AI appear positive.
You seem to be framing AI as good for us normal folks, and that the only people at risk are those who do shitty work. That there is some kind of benefit for people to have and that the risk is so negligible that it's fine.
But it's frustrating because you can't seem to describe these benefits, or why the risks are negligible, or even worth it. You just keep steadfastly asserting that it's ok. So where is this conviction coming from and what is the motivation to continue to assert it?

Wow, I didn't know this community was so touchy about their shit post links.

Reminds me of my 9gag days.

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I can't stop listening to this.
I feel like I need to go play chess now. Idk if it's AI generated or not, but it's so catchy

Calling people against the current incarnation of AI "luddites" is a gross mischaracterization.

I'm glad that you seem to have at least completely given up the pretense that this will somehow benefit society.

Im telling you that again that the jobs that AI makes are orders of magnitude fewer, and far less fulfilling.
I'm telling you again that the impact goes way beyond corpo art jobs.

But youre refusing to listen, or even put up a reasonable defense, you're just reiterating your previous completely unsupported assertion in really suspicious ways.

Nobody is trying to argue the feasibility of stopping the change, we're saying the change is bad. The argument that the change is inevitable therefore it is good (or that at least we shouldn't be upset by it) is crazy

As someone who is part of the problem (working on creating AI products, too scared to quit in protest) I can promise you that is not how it works. That is a frighteningly naive and short sighted view of the repercussions.

Coal mining was bad, and using coal was bad.
We found a replacement for it, which is good. some people were affected, which is bad. But replacing coal had a minimal impact on the overall job market and was a huge benefit to society.

AI is taking away safe skilled jobs from people who love them. It's affecting many industries, and will affect many many more if you can actually believe the promises of the LLM providers.
First it's affecting the fine arts. Beginner illustrators, authors, etc, can't compete, so they leave the industry. After all the old hands die out, there is nobody left to replace them.
Then it's affecting technical industries; software development, hardware design. Same thing, eventually nobody will be left.
Finances and accounting, of course
Then medicine. And there is a knock-on effect here where areas that AI cant do are also affected because the industry as a whole is on the decline so nobody bothers to even apply - you usually start school as a generalist and specialize later.\

And the new "prompt artist" jobs being offered are orders of magnitude fewer and less gratifying.

If what you said was true, then there wouldn't be any benefit to corporations, and they wouldn't be investing billions into it.

All this would be ok if the fruits of this new advancement went back into society, to help people, especially those who were displaced. But it doesn't. It goes straight into the pockets of business owners and shareholders in the form of increased margins and stock buybacks.

You're literally arguing that we should just let big business interests walk all over the job market because that's "just how it is".

That's true.

But in terms of power/emissions, data centers are far far better. The waste of potable water could be addressed if we make them, but the inefficiency of running locally cannot be.

I still prefer to run locally anyways, because fuck the kind of people who are trying to sell AI, but it is absolutely more inherently wasteful

It's not giving them elsewhere.
There is not and will not be an abundance of prompt "engineering" jobs, it's not creating new industries, and it's not significantly lowering the bar for people to start their own businesses is existing industries.

What it is doing is data-mining on a scale never seen before, and increasing profit margins for megacorp business owners.

Honestly that's kinda worse, because it's specifically replacing entry-level jobs

That's almost certainly more wasteful. The machines they run them on are going to be far more efficient.

Running it locally is better because of all the other data mining that goes along with capitalism

There is, and that's typically less bad, but it still has ethical issues with how it was trained.

It's a tool created and controlled by the bourgeoisie, primarily designed to and markered for replacing skilled labor.

The fact you think displaced artists are petite bourgeoisie instead of skilled labor is telling.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I also think capitalism is a race to the bottom, but I believe it is so because it subverts the value of labor. It's shit like AI that makes it a race to the bottom.

shit most wouldn't spend money on or stuff where instead of paying for a stock photo they just generate shit and be done with it.

Then pay for the stock photo. There, an artist is being paid for their work. But realistically the little stuff you're talking about is the occupation of entire departments in megacorps.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 83 points 3 days ago

Nearly nobody is arguing against using AI for personal fun.

People are arguing against AI destroying entire career segments without providing benefit to society, especially to those displaced. People are arguing against how it so easily misleads people, especially when used as a learning aid. People are arguing against the enormous resource usage.

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I'm probably going to judge you if you say Holocene, without an interesting non-trivial reason.

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Mac & Beans (lemmy.ca)

Using copilot:

generate and image of Shrek opening a can of beans, but unexpectedly Mac & cheese flies out and lands on the donkey

Unholy union of ai memes

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I remember everyone calling her androgynous at the time. Looking back, that was an absolutely wild thing for people to think.

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What a sweet deal! Thanks Hello Fresh!

They really said
🙅 "Disney+, with ads on us"
👉 "Disney+ with ads, on us"

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca to c/imageai@sh.itjust.works

Theme

Create a new sport that you think should be added to the next (or some future) Olympic games.

I've heard that the Olympics are currently happening, so I figured why not celebrate this by telling the Olympic committee how dumb they are for passing over your new idea for an Olympic sport!

Rules

  • Follow the community’s rules above all else
  • One comment and image per user
  • Embed image directly in the post (no external link)
  • Workflow/Prompt sharing encouraged (we’re all here for fun and learning)
  • Posts that are tied will both get the points
  • The challenge runs for 7 days from now on
  • Down votes will not be counted

Scores

At the end of the challenge each post will be scored:

Prize Points
Most upvoted +3 points
Second most upvoted +2 point
Third most upvoted +1 point
OP’s favorite +1 point
Most original +1 point
Last two entries (to compensate for less time to vote) +1 point
Prompt and workflow included +1 point

The winner gets to pick next theme! As always, have fun everyone!
Previous entries

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I've been trying to find this video for a while with no luck, and idk what other community to ask.

The video features this yellow dancing CG blob alien thing, and the lyrics go something like:

We made AI to do the dumb stuff, so we could do the fun stuff
But now it does the fun stuff, and we became the dumb stuff

Does anyone remember it, or know where to find it?
The little singing alien thing popped up a few times on my FYP but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because I can't find any evidence that it ever existed.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca to c/imageai@sh.itjust.works

Theme

Try to recreate a classic exploitable meme using AI!

I'm gonna switch up the scoring a little for this challenge, so be sure to read the score section:

  • Most ambitious: the most complex meme or the meme that I (a layman) feels would be very difficult to describe via prompt.
  • Most recognizable: the meme is the easiest to identify, and is the most accurate to the original
  • Do not include the name of the meme in the prompt: the challenge is to find a novel way to recreate the meme, not just get the model to spit out an image it was trained on. You can use words that are in the name of the meme, but avoid telling the model to just make the meme.

Rules

  • Follow the community’s rules above all else
  • One comment and image per user
  • Embed image directly in the post (no external link)
  • Workflow/Prompt sharing encouraged (we’re all here for fun and learning)
  • Posts that are tied will both get the points
  • The challenge runs for 7 days from now on
  • Down votes will not be counted

Scores

At the end of the challenge each post will be scored:

Prize Points
Most upvoted +3 points
Second most upvoted +2 point
Third most upvoted +1 point
OP’s favorite +1 point
Most ambitious +1 point
Most recognizable meme +1 point
Last two entries (to compensate for less time to vote) +1 point
Prompt and workflow included +1 point
Prompt includes the name of the meme -1 point

The winner gets to pick next theme! As always, have fun everyone! Previous entries

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