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[-] Olap@lemmy.world 117 points 7 months ago

When does systemd stop? Linux without it is increasingly looking unlikely in the future. Are we not worried about it being a single point of failure and attack vector?

This isn't a moan about the unix philosophy btw, but a genuine curiosity about how we split responsibilities in todays linux environment.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 168 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

SystemD will consume the entirety of Linux, bit by bit.

  • In 2032, SystemD announces they're going to be introducing a new way to manage software on Linux
  • In 2035, SystemD will announce they're making a display system to replace the ageing Wayland
  • In 2038, the SystemD team announces they're making their own desktop environment
  • In 2039 SystemD's codebase has grown to sixteen times its size in the 2020s. SystemD's announces they're going to release replacements for most other packages and ship their own vanilla distro.
  • In 2045 SystemD's distro has become the standard Linux distribution. Most other distros have quietly faded away.
  • In 2047, SystemD announces they're going to incorporate most of GNU into SystemD. Outrage ensues from the Free Software Foundation, which vehemently opposes this move.
  • In 2048, Richard Stallman dies of a heart attack after attempting to clone SystemD's git repo. SystemD engages in a hostile takeover and all resistance within the FSF crumbles
  • In 2050, SystemD buys the struggling RedHat from IBM for $61 million.
  • In 2053, most world governments have been pressured into using SystemD.
  • In 2054, Linus Torvalds, fearing for his life, begins negotiations to merge kernel development into SystemD
  • In 2056, the final message on the Linux kernel development mailing list is sent.
  • In 2058, Torvalds dies under suspicious circumstances after his brand-new laptop battery explodes.
  • In 2060, SystemD agents assassinate the CEO of Microsoft.
  • In 2063, after immense pressure from SystemD-controlled human rights organisations, Arch developers discontinue development.
  • In 2064, the remaining living Debian developers release the next stable version of their clandestine and highly illegal distro.
[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 36 points 7 months ago

I think you might want to recheck the ages of some of the people in your timeline, most of them aren't that young anymore.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 20 points 7 months ago
[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Debian in many ways isn't as slow-moving as people think.

For example, they moved to Wayland by default (for Gnome anyway) in 2019. A number of well-known distros likely won't have that until 2025/2026 or beyond.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Sadly they've been dropping archs throughout the years, meaning they're no longer the distro you can use to run on "anything" from a pi to a mainframe...

[-] yoevli@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Doesn't trixie still support like a dozen arches? I think one of the more recent deprecations was MIPS BE which is functionally obsolete in 2024, at least insofar as practically no one is using it to run a modern distribution.

[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Bookworm, Trixie, and Sid all currently support a total of 10 different architectures.

And looking through the Wikipedia article for Debian's version history, most of the dropped architectures were functionally obsolete when they were dropped, or like the Motorola 68000, when support was added. (notable exceptions being IA-64 which was dropped 4 years before intel discontinued it, SPARC which is still supported by Oracle, and PowerPC.)

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago

If your bar is "modern distribution" stick to Ubuntu.

If you want to maintain older hardware Debian used to be a go-to solution.

[-] swab148@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

What's the go-to solution now?

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Most likely LFS or some tailored distro I haven't heard of.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Probably the weirdest joke comment I've ever read.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Thanks for that write up. Made my day! 😄

[-] Certainity45@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

This is a script of Simpsons episode and Torvalds will actually die in 2058.

[-] duviobaz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago

Dude if you made a movie or novel about this that would be awesome

[-] NekkoDroid@programming.dev -2 points 7 months ago

One way to notice a person has "systemd derangement syndrome" is by looking at how they write systemd: if they write it SystemD they are already in late stages of SDS and it isn't curable anymore.

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago

Either that, or it's a joke.

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