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[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 5 months ago

It doesn't really matter because Russians have never really had a mature democracy and so, I think, do not really know how it should/could be different. They are used to various forms of authoritarian rule; whether the leader is called a Tsar, or a General Secretary of the Communist Party, or a President of the Russian Federation doesn't make that much difference.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

Well, that was also true in Korea and Japan before WW2, yet both are shining examples of democracy (with a healthy amount of chaebol/Keiretsu/oligopoly to round it out). Likewise in Germany.

So it's not impossible, just foreign.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

Of course it is possible and I hope they eventually develop into a mature democracy. Point is, it has not happened yet.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -5 points 5 months ago

"Mature democracies" buy Russian gas and support Azerbaijan.

Nothing in the past makes an existing democracy more stable.

What does is culture of bravery\heroics AND fairness AND individualism. Bravery AND fairness without individualism get you communism. Bravery AND individualism without fairness get you either the British Empire or Somalia. Bravery without fairness and individualism get you fascism. Individualism AND fairness without bravery lead to something like most "mature democracies" of today.

Now, Russia has problems in culture with every one of these. Each of them pops up locally here and there in the social fabric, but the lumpen layers don't like the idea of fairness and bravery, while the worker class, so to say, doesn't like the idea of individualism, and the "well off" people are similar to the lumpen class sometimes in this. Bravery is the one most lacking, though.

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