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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago

DHS has been a joke since its inception

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

Is there even a difference between DHS and NSA? Or is this just another American extravagance like their political parties.

[-] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

dhs is for like, big tent coordination between the different ghoulish agencies, iirc. It was created after the failure to put the pieces together in the leadup to 9/11

NSA is specifically signals intelligence, like mass data gathering at the telecom level, and crypto shenanigans, CIA is foreign espionage (and whatever the fuck they want tbh), FBI is domestic law enforcement/espionage. But each of them is so big and unaccountable that there's a lot of overlap in practice. They are genuinely different, but they all serve the same purposes really. CIA is the only one that really stands out for its brazen disobeying of the civilian government and complete unaccountability, since they fund their own shit via trafficking, etc. in addition to the normal budget process

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

My understanding is that DHS now are basically the service economy workers of the intelligence community; doing Intel admin between Coast Guard, Border Guard, TSA etc, strip searches, entrance interviews, unglamorous, low-tech grunt work in-country.

I believe the rationale, at least politically after 9/11 was that unlike the CIA/NSA etc it was a cabinet level agency so answered directly to the executive branch with less independence.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Is there even a difference between DHS and NSA?

Thugs to the DHS of us
Cryptologist to the NSA
Here we are
Stuck in the middle with them

Music

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

I think it's the extravagance one

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

Only took it twenty years to get to the punchline...

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

leo-point you've got it right there. I just remember thinking how cartoonishly Nazi sounding that name is Homeland Security.

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