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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yep, I've said it before, chasing the "Progressive" (as the vocal lemmy base self identify) vote is a futile endeavor. It doesn't matter if Biden cut off support to Isreal today. They would just move the goalposts and harp on about how he's not perfect and therefore not worth their vote.

I have zero doubt that had Bernie, their messiah, been elected in 2016, they would have turned on him within a year because he necessarily would have had to make concessions to get anything passed, and the progressive base is uncompromising.

Which isn't to say we shouldn't vocalize our discontent with continued Isreal support during a genocide. Pressure gives them the excuse to slowly dial back the historically unconditional support of Isreal. But they have to tread very carefully, because despite the bubble on Lemmy, withdrawing support for Isreal is extremely politically risky.

And ultimately, the best chance to shift support to the Palestinians in Gaza is to vote blue across the board, while giving them the feedback that ending support for Isreal is popular. Because the alternative, voting Republican or independent, has zero chance of improving anything for Gazians, Ukrainians, or anyone besides christofacists.

If you want to shift things more progressive, get involved in campaigning for lower elections. You don't just go straight to the top, you need to get a movement with real traction before you're going to turn any heads.

You're trying to skip the Montage, and fight the end boss before you can throw a punch.

[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

I wouldnt say that its the progressives shifting the goalposts....

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