873
Zionist Karen
(lemmy.ml)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 04 May 2024
873 points (92.2% liked)
Comics
5825 readers
191 users here now
This is a community for everything comics related! A place for all comics fans.
Rules:
1- Do not violate lemmy.ml site-wide rules
2- Be civil.
3- If you are going to post NSFW content that doesn't violate the lemmy.ml site-wide rules, please mark it as NSFW and add a content warning (CW). This includes content that shows the killing of people and or animals, gore, content that talks about suicide or shows suicide, content that talks about sexual assault, etc. Please use your best judgement. We want to keep this space safe for all our comic lovers.
4- No Zionism or Hasbara apologia of any kind. We stand with Palestine 🇵🇸 . Zionists will be banned on sight.
5- The moderation team reserves the right to remove any post or comments that it deems a necessary for the well-being and safety of the members of this community, and same goes with temporarily or permanently banning any user.
Guidelines:
- If possible, give us your sources.
- If possible, credit creators of each comics in the title or body of your post. If you are the creator, please credit yourself. A simple “- Me” would suffice.
- In general terms, write in body of your post as much information as possible (dates, creators, editors, links).
- If you found the image on the web, it is encouraged to put the direct link to the image in the ‘Link’ field when creating a post, instead of uploading the image to Lemmy. Direct links usually end in .jpg, .png, etc.
- One post by topic.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Notice how one of the underlying messages of the cartoon is that it's Zionist Karen that is the real antisemite: by deeming that those demonstrating against the killing of children are antisemite (literally: against Jews), she is implying that killing children is a Jewish thing to do.
This is very much the kind of racism displayed by those who equate anti-Israel with antisemitic: they're implying that Israel and its actions are all core Jewsih chracteristics, de facto slandering all Jews including those who disagree with Israel and/or its actio s, so they're the ones who by definition are antisemite.
Zionist != Jewish, sorry. Killing children is something I would expect neozionists to be apologists for, not postzionists.You have a flawed premise.
They meant that Zionists are anti-semites. They didn't mean that Zionism is Judaism, right @Aceticon@lemmy.world ?
Exactly!
(More broadly, people who weaponize accusations of anti-semitism to defend the indefensible)
Yeah, I probably read it wrong, nevermind.
Can we knock it off with the karens already? I haven’t yet met a bad person named Karen. Brenda. Now I’ve met a few train wrecks named Brenda. Or just maybe we can knock it off with the underlying red herring sexism. We know already karen is a catch all term to get the hate pointed at women and off of the gun toting proudboys.
"Karen" started as a term for white women weaponizing their whiteness to behave unreasonable, aggressive and entitled towards BIPOCs, despite being marginalized themselves, through their gender.
White men has conveniently left out the whiteness that they themselves participate in, and focused in on the ~~white~~ women, essentializing the unreasonable, aggressive and entitled behaviour as linked to ~~white~~ women's gender, rather than their whiteness
Classic co-opting. A social dominant group taking a term that's been used by marginalized groups to critique the systemic oppression inherent in current power structures; and instead use it to uphold and reinforce the current power structures and their inherent oppressive systems.
“Karen” has long since transcended past race and gender. I don’t care what you look like, it’s the attitude and the way you treat people that makes one a Karen.
You don’t have to be a white woman to have main character syndrome and act entitled to everything, treating people like dirt if you don’t get your way and climbing up the customer service ladder until you do, trying to get the people on the lower rungs fired because they told you no.
Or call the cops on someone in a park because you thought they were too loud with their skateboard. Or drop to the ground and scream “a [color] person is attacking me!” when you don’t like them walking their dog down the trail. Etc.
There is a lot of prediction you’re doing in things you don’t like in other people. I mean holy crap you’re reading between the lines, reading minds, and injecting a bunch of stuff that goes way over someone who calls the cops on someone in the park for existing while black. All so you can live in some form of victimhood cuz you’re scared of women. Leave the actual flagrant racism alone and challenge your thinking pattern. Do some cognitive work. Not every woman is out to get you. A lot of that is you likely not owning your shit, someone likely didn’t want to put up with your shit (while existing female around you) and you projecting that shit onto them.
Meanwhile regardless how men dress or do they hair they can form a group for putting people to literal death.
But yeah, do go on cuz you’re offended someone for colouring their hair purple and ordered a pumpkin spice latte with almond milk not a cappuccino and gasp tried to tell you this and you decided they are trying to ‘get you fired’ just for that. That’s digging into the real important shit of the world, snowflake.
Instead of atomizing citizens via immutable physical traits, try looking at the only thing that matters, the relationship of the person to Capital.
It all matters.
Acknowledging how society divide and conquer, seperate and atomize citizens into segregated social groups, often linked to immutable traits, is essential to combat capitalism and tear down class dividers.
There's a reason bell hooks coined "imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy". These are interconnected oppressive systems. They strengthen and sustain each other, and one cannot be defeated without the others. Additionally; If you do not stand in solidarity with those who face a multitude of oppressive structures, they have less resources to fight the oppressive capitalist structures
Ignoring everything but capitalism is similar to white feminism ignoring everything but gendered oppression.
All women are not free until everyone is free.
All workers are not free until everyone is free
All black, indigenous, people of color and racialized minorities are not free until everyone is free
All LGBTQ+ people are not free until everyone is free
There is no workers' liberation without women's liberation without black people's liberation without queer people's liberation without disabled people liberation without...
You cannot mobilize the working class without addressing the very real, oppressive structures that have very real, negative impact on people's lives.
Race isn't real, and the idea that people are physically separated into racial groups is not real. That's a human made, social construct.
But racism is real. Humans separating humans into different social groups based on the socially constructed idea of "race" is real. And the effects of racism is real. Different rights and treatment being allocated humans based on these social groups are real. And therefore, the shared struggles against structural oppression within these groups are very real - despite the basis of these social groups' creation being a social construct
Not acknowledging the multitude of struggles and oppressive systems present in imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy makes it impossible to stand in true solidarity with fellow workers, across social groups. It'll inevitably lead to reinforcing the unrecognized oppressive structures, and stand in the way of a united working class.
Could you clarify why "gun toting proudboys" isn't sexist?
You should go ask a proudboy these questions you have for them.
The question isn't aimed at proudboys but at you, calling use of the Karen name "underlying red herring sexism" but then demonstrating your own not so underlying but explicit red herring sexism with the use of "gun toting proudboys." Unless you were being ironic of course.
Is this your first introduction with the term ‘proudboy’? Did you just sleep through 2020 election and too embarrassed to admit it or were you literally born yesterday? Or is this just a troll shitPost attempt? I’m going to go with the last one and block your ass. So you’re going to have to find someone else’s time to waste with bad faith posting though I’d prefer it if you didn’t but whatever. you are clearly hellbent on being the shittiest version of you.
The ultimate "lalala I'm not listening". What a fucking crybaby.
I have. My ex's mother was named Karen, and she was 100% Karen. Bigoted to the core. But I hear ya.