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They recovered four, three of them AT the crash sites! How. The black boxes didn't even survive. cat-confused

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago

The bloodlust immediately after 9/11 was the highest I've seen in my lifetime, much like Oct 7th has been for the Zionist project. I could maybe buy that 9/11 was orchestrated to not just invade countries but to rally Americans around the flag and secure the empire as the End of History.

Except Bush didn't do that. He could have pointed the finger at anyone and used that to orient the imperial project, but instead of using his biggest political windfall to start a war with Iran he blew his political capital on Afghanistan and then Iraq. Maybe he thought those would be easier occupations and he could use them to build momentum for Iran, but I don't see it. It just seems opportunist, rather than planned.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Iraq and Afghanistan are just two of the countries in the region that US politicians have openly been plotting to invade for decades. Syria, Yemen, and Iran are also on this list. They've plotted this since the 70s and have openly admitted to it in interviews since then.

Iraq was part of the bigger picture, like Iran. It wasn't just opportunistic, it was part of the plan from the beginning.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So why didn't he invade Iraq first? Or further, why didn't he skip all that and just invade Iran?

Why Afghanistan? It has some strategic importance but it's certainly not that important.

That's what makes it look opportunistic. It's like no one really thought out how to best use 9/11 because it wasn't actually planned out. They just had a political opportunity fall in their laps and then blew it on lesser targets.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

They did strike Iran to destabilize them around that time period and multiple times before and after the 2000s. Iran is also a much more difficult target than Iraq because they are (and were) much more powerful. Part of the point of the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan is not just to destabilize those countries, but to destabilize the entire region.

Iran is flanked on either side by Iraq and Afghanistan, having countries on two opposite borders collapse didn't leave Iran untouched. These actions are connected. Sure, I'm not saying they had everything planned out well beforehand, but they've had their targets planned for a long time and Iran wasn't even close to the same level of difficulty as Iraq and Afghanistan were. It makes more sense to go for the weaker targets and use these to weaken the tougher targets.

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