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UK surgeon who described Gaza ‘massacre’ denied entry to France
(www.theguardian.com)
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It’s interesting that France has lost its autonomy here. Can they not even permit him entry with an escort?
It seems Abu-Sitta was denied entry into Germany because he was going to attend another conference that the Germans felt might cause a disturbance. A conference he never made it to. And now cannot visit other “sovereign” nations in the zone:
(From the April German ban)
Germany feels so much guilt about perpetuating one Holocaust that it is preventing information about another Holocaust from getting out.
Its so shameful how the goverment of the country i call home is behaving. I wonder how historians will look at this in a couple decades.
It's worth contemplating how absolutism influences our various cultures. Genocide feeds on it.
And you know what's the worst thing: The opposition is even worse. Friedrich Merz is basically German Donald Trump and the AfD with people like Björn Höcke is just the spiritual successor to the NSDAP
At least the job is being done by a master in the field.
Stop that "guilt" talk please that's a literal Nazi narrative. Responsibility is the word you're looking for.
And, no, Germany isn't preventing anything from getting out DW is pretty much blasting Gazan plight 24/7. Then, you won't hear them say it publicly to not risk damaging diplomatic relations but the government definitely thinks that there's a genocide going on -- otherwise they wouldn't have stopped weapon exports.
So then why not talk about it if they know genocide is happening? Why prevent this guy from speaking in France?
Because cutting off ties with Israel doesn't change Israel's mind, especially if you're Germany, while with intact relations you can still work from the inside. Germany has deep ties to all aspects of Israeli society, not just the government. Or, differently put: Breaking ties won't happen until the Kahanites outlaw the Haaretz.
On the flipside I don't see any other possible explanation for the lack of issued weapons export permits than them being of the opinion that there's at least a strong risk that those weapons would be used in a genocide. You might've heard that the ICJ didn't enact any preliminary rulings against Germany to stop weapons exports, that is why: There's no exports that could be reasonably used in the perpetration of a genocide.
Germany never decided that, Germany, or rather Berlin (as in the state government in its role as municipality, not the federal government) decided he should not speak in Germany on grounds of public order concerns. I suppose it has something to do with him glorifying war criminals, no matter how often he says that he disavows terrorism. The convention he was to speak at also showed videos of someone else already banned, there might be some degree of getting caught in the cross fire involved. He's not a German citizen thus political activism within Germany is not a right but privilege.
Plenty of Palestinians are not getting banned from Germany like that because they're way less iffy, and with that I don't mean "Don't criticise Israel".
France is free to make arrangements that allow him to enter France without risking him entering Schengen states he's banned from. Also this would've looked differently without Brexit as then he'd still be a EU citizen and the ban wouldn't have automatically extended to Schengen so why aren't you blaming the Tories instead of Germany.
The only way any country would agree to being part of a geographic zone with no internal border controls is if they could disallow individuals from the whole area. Not much point refusing a man entry into Germany if he can just go to France and rent a car, drive to Berlin.
They wouldn't rent a car. They'd take the train.
Not really the takeaway here but ok.
Carrying a huge rucksack which makes an odd ticking noise.
Weird source, they absolutely identified the person, and it was Abu Sitta. He was the reason the conference had to be stopped.
edit.: I've looked for a somewhat decent German source to share and found something interesting. The Palestine conference was banned because a speaker named Abu Sitta wanted to hold a speech, who is banned from political activity in Germany. This guy is specifically pro Hamas and said, if he was younger he would've participated in the Hamas attack himself. At the same time this other person was banned from entry into the country, also named Abu Sitta. I'm now left wondering if this Schengen ban was mistakenly issued and meant for the other guy.
It's internal politics.
The other article I read said that the guy was invited by a member of the opposition (EELV, the Greens), and when contacted the Élysée (head office of the executive) literally said "there's not much the police could do about a Schengen ban".
.... i.e. of course France could have allowed him in. The executive just chose not to exercise its power because that would not have benefitted the majority.