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Hopes of Gaza ceasefire rise as Hamas delegation arrives in Cairo
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
Short answer, it's complicated because the last time Palestine had an election this is who the Palestinian people voted for. But there also hasn't been an election like that in a very long time
Also, Israel and the US didn't like their choice, hence the PA which is considered highly corrupt and propped up by Israel and the US.
So for better or Elmore, Hamas is who the Palestinian people voted for (at one point). Their designation as a terrorist organization is largely a western government thing. The UN does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization.
This is true, but it seems to me like an Italy in WW2 kind of situation (sorry for all the WW2 parallels, folks) where a government was voted in but overstayed its welcome, to put it mildly.
You are projecting how you'd like to interpret things into a situation where the facts on the ground simply don't agree with you.
Hamas has around 90% approval in Gaza:
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514
I agree with the sentiment and would love to see free and fair democratic elections in Palestine. But if public sentiment if the governed is what we're going by, then both the Republican and Democratic party in the US are less legitimate than Hamas. Weird metaphor but there it is. If elections were tomorrow, Hamas would win in a landslide. It's part of the reason why Israel and the US have prevented elections for as long as they have.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514
I'm sorry, but that's not what the article says. 90% of respondents think Abbas should resign, but that is separate from "approval". FTA:
Sorry about that, you are correct.
Regardless, the article does show significant support for Hamas among the Palestinian people.
The Palestinian people are faced with the option of a corrupt puppet government obviously controlled by Israel and the US, or an extreme, basically terrorist but at least they'll fight for you Hamas.
if your goal is survival who do you pick?
Do you think there might be a good reason for that? Say, their children getting wiped out by the thousands?
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Fighting against an Apartheid, truly the most "extreme" people lmao.
Not fighting means you're guaranteed to be fully Genocided and Ethnically Cleansed. As we can see in the West Bank. The only option left for Palestinians is to fight, or roll over and die.
Can we really trust those figures? I'm sure the Kims in the DPRK enjoy very high "approval ratings" too. What is the cost of saying you disapprove?
Yeah you should probably trust those figures instead of rolling with your own head cannon of what you want things to be. I don't see anything in the methods that are particularly suspect, do you?
You need to be open to a reality where the Palestinian people support Hamas because historically, they have. It also shows in polling. Keep in mind the fact that there haven't been elections in Palestine for as long as there have , is part of a strategy by Israel and the US to delegitimize Hamas.
Like, think about your sentiment for a moment. Your basically arguing that Palestine picked wrong and the occupying, colonial settler project know better who should lead the Palestineian people than the Palestinian people.
You are either in favor of democracy, and you work with whom people elect because that's how it works, or you are against democracy. You can't really have it both ways.
The people they picked don't even live there and do little but embezzle funds... Of course they picked "wrong". I am in favor of democracy and I don't think what's happening now in Gaza is democratic at all.
Unless the people pick wrong.
If you genuinely believe that a group voted in 18 years ago who don't live in the country and haven't held an election since then can be considered a legitimate government, we're never going to see eye to eye on this.
And who is stopping the Palestineian people from holding another election?
Like you don't seem to notice how deep in the paint you are regarding both US and Israelli propaganda on this issue.