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Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

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[-] macabrett@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Then start pressuring the democratic party instead of people like me, whose vote has literally never counted towards anything because of the electoral college.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Because individuals don't matter. People do. And there might be people in swing states who are reading this and saying "Yeah. I want to see change. I am gonna vote for Jill fucking Stein".

But also? A large part of why we won in 2020 was because of Staey Abrams et al in Georgia. That was a red as hell state that almost entirely ran on voter disenfranchisement. And she and other advocates fought hard to make people ACTUALLY vote and it turned Blue. It has been an increasing acknowledgement that Texas is ACTUALLY a purple, if not blue, state but is gerrymandered to hell to prevent that.

Does every individual's vote matter? No. Of course not. But every VOTE matters. Because it keeps blue states blue and it fights the efforts to disenfranchise voters in "red" states. And you accomplish that by pointing out the stupidity of people who are advocating for change by... not voting or even outright voting against their own interests.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

You know whose votes made the difference in GA? Young voters, 35 and under. The same ones who disapprove of Biden’s genocide by over 80%. These same voters, when exercising free speech to protest this genocide, are being attacked and wrongly imprisoned by Biden’s jack booted thugs for doing so.

This is why Biden’s full throated support of Israel is the hill his presidency will die upon, and no matter how much you want to try to shift the blame onto voters, it’s entirely Biden’s fault.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's not a question of blame it's a question of working in your own self interest. Next election you have 3 choices basically. First you can make things dramatically worse by voting Trump and pushing us even closer to the fascist dictatorship we're already edging towards. Second you could vote Biden which while not really improving anything at least buys 4 more years for the GOP to continue its slow death. Third you can abstain by either not voting or voting for anybody else which dramatically hurts Biden and helps Trump because those voting for Trump aren't the ones abstaining. Sure maybe it will send a message to the DNC, although history seems to show it won't, but in the meantime you've just helped Cheeto Mussolini come into power and if you're someone who would be considered liberal there's a decent chance that's going to get you killed or at least persecuted in the near future.

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