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I said suspicion, not evidence. The suspicion arises when you try to answer the following 2 basic questions:
Or put another way, apart from a few idealists like the Calyx Institute, nobody in their right mind would foot the bill to run servers mostly used by hackers and pedos. Therefore, the most likely operators are law enforcement and nefarious barely-constitutional three-letter agencies.
TLAs, LEOs and criminals are both Tor end users and have an interest in attacking Tor users.
Everybody has the resources to run Tor relays and even exits, though the latter can become a massive legal nuisance. Servers are cheap. Read the Tor mailing list archives.
As to 'mostly used by hackers and pedos', please provide the evidence. Factual one, not non-sequiturs based on faulty assumptions.
Ok so the CIA, NSA, and FBI are running the majority of Tor nodes. Is there evidence that the data is being used to prosecute/harass/intimidate people?
Wouldn't there be unusual IP addresses on exit nudes?
I'm just trying to follow this thread.
So you're okay with the TLAs snooping around and watching what you do provided they don't act on it? I'm not, if only as a matter of principle. To quote the great movie Anon, it's not that I have something to hide, it's that I have nothing I want them to see.
Besides, remember, this is the United States: just say terrorism or national security, and due process and habeas corpus go out the window - in which case, you may not hear about somebody being harassed or prosecuted at all.
Why wouldn't they act on it?
Regarding your second point, I worked in IT at a large university about 15 years ago and set up an exit node briefly on a spare system I had. The IT security team tracked it down fairly quickly because of the sudden flurry of malicious traffic associated with it. So I had to shut it down fairly soon after I fired it up.
Most networks are likely going to have a similar reaction if running an exit node results in malicious activity on those networks. Ask yourself - who would willingly allow that to happen? It wouldn’t surprise me if the answer is organizations that want to monitor that traffic for one reason or another.