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Why No One Wants to Live in Canada
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Housing prices are through the roof but nobody wants to live here?
Did Justin Trudeau just take them all hostage or something?
You think I can just move country and it wouldn't cost anything? I'm Canadian and this country is a disgrace. If I could leave I would. Edit: I'm native and saying I'd leave if I could. Instead of downvoting, reflect on how bad you colonized and fucked up my continent
Why do you think this country is a disgrace?
Cause I'm of native background and was raised being told about the greatness, acceptance and generosity of Canada. Then I grew up and found out about native genocides, Confederate Amnesty, residential schools, John a MacDonald. I grew up into a Canada where food prices are through the roof because we're being robbed and our governments don't care. Higher education is unaffordable to anyone without wealthy parents, housing is pathetic, wages are a joke. Our premieres don't care and push the buck to the feds, and the feds are off in another hemisphere giving away money and worrying about citizens of every nation but the one they've been elected to govern. Canadians are drowning and our elected officials can't be bothered to even pretend they give a fuck.
It seems most the problems you’re talking about are global problems though.
Where do you think you’ll have a better quality of life?
Which problems that they mentioned do you think are global, and why?
The original comment that I responded to was about inflation, food costs and housing costs.
Those are all global problems.
I’m not getting into what they changed their comment to because I don’t know enough about it.
How would you argue that they are global problems? (please don't interperet that as condescending, or accusatory — I am simply curious. It is hard to convey emotion through text)
How would you argue inflation, food costs and housing costs aren’t a global problem.
I think I may have misinterpereted your argument. When you said
were you arguing that most countries have the same problems as Canada, so to immigrate elswhere would be futile? I was under the presumption that you were arguing that Canada can't do anything to fix it's issues, and that it would instead require some global collaborative effort.
Oh look more questions.
You're being fooled by the government's normalization of hopelessness.
No, I spend a lot of time travelling and I see the problems you are talking about aren't limited just to Canada.
Would you mind clarifying what you mean by this?
Based on what are you making this claim? The Canadian Government and the provincial governments provide loans and financial support to students, which should be able to cover all expenses for an average post secondary institution [source] [source]. Furthermore, the Canadian government provides extra support for Indigenous Peoples [source].
You don't get it do you. When I was college age, I could pay for my entire education with $15k. Which I thought was a lot. My child will have to take out loans for like x10 that amount and it will destroy her future before it even begins.
It depends on where one goes — not all post secondary institutions charge the same amounts. Generally, the fancier/more reputable schools will charge the most. It is quite possible to complete undergrad in Canada for <30k CAD (not including living and transportation expenses). Also, keep in mind that inflation is innevitable — the Government of Canada targets an inflation rate of 2% per year [source].
hey if you hate it, beat feet and make room for someone who's life is threatened and needs to get away from an authoritarian hellscape by seeking asylum in canada. it's a two-fer, you get out of the place you hate and someone else gets to live someplace they won't be hunted.
Did you just tell a native person to leave the country if it doesn't like your colonial bullshit?
I mean I'll go back to where me and my people came from. Walks two steps. Now you.
One, not canadian.
two, not telling you to go HOME, you're telling me your home is becoming untenable, I'm advising you leave an untenable situation.
this isn't colonialism. I didn't make the choices that hurt you. I don't have a vote there. Haven't visited since 1987 ffs lol.
I like how you interpreted what I stated as colonialism when actually I'm pointing out that canada's better for most folk than 98% of the other authoritarian hellscapes. As a native, Canada is doing you wrong. But it's not better elsewhere, and in many places, it's much, much worse, for example, the US.
Y'all are doing hellscapes on easy mode. Get some real republican melanin hating conservatives who take women's reproductive rights away, threaten civil war with their arsenals, and try to overthrow your elected officials, then we can talk shop.
Good luck.
By "my continent", I presume that you are referring to the idea that the indigenous peoples were the first ones to arrive in North America, and, by extension, you apply the first possession principle? Also, for clarity, what exactly does "my continent" refer to, in terms of lands?
How many homes are empty?
Are you suggesting the reason house prices are high is because they are all empty and no one is selling them for the high prices?
There are certainly overpriced vacant homes in the more expensive metropolitan areas (coughcondoscoughTorontocough), but I doubt there are enough of them to make a visible dent in the housing issue.
Empty houses in the Metro Vancouver area have certinaly been an issue [source]. The B.C. Speculation and Vacancy Tax was implemented to discourage this behaviour [source]. Theoretically, it should also capture the negative impact that vacant housing has on society and the economy.
Has implementing the speculation tax lowered house prices in B.C.?
I would guess that it is extremely difficult to quantify how much of an effect the tax has had on the housing market. Anything beyond a guess, however, would be outside of my qualifications — I would defer to those who have looked into this more appropriately. After a very quick, and cursory websearch, I found a paper that stated the following:
So what were we talking about before you started trying to derail this conversation with endless questions?
Is that rhetorical? I don't understand the purpose of your seemingly condescending question.
Why do you constantly ask questions without adding anything to the conversation?
That's a loaded question; I disagree with the premise — I feel that I have provided useful information and context. You, however, have not provided anything but seemingly non-constructive and condescending content for your past 3 comments [1][2][3] in this thread.
What premise do you disagree with?
None of these replies are meant to be condescending, you’re correct when you say tone is hard to read through text.
Is empty housing a prevelant problem across Canada? I was under the impression that it was really only a problem in Metro Vancouver. Furthermore, B.C. has a vacancy tax [source], which should capture the negative societal and economic impact generated by empty housing .
People, don't downvote someone for asking a valid question