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[-] migo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

When you have to eat and the means to feed ourselves is held by few, no transaction is voluntary.

[-] hemko@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Of course it's voluntary. You choose what you buy, when you do it, how much and from whom.

If someone held you on gunpoint and told you to buy their product, that would be involuntary.

[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You can choose what, when, how much, and from whom, but you are still are still forced to do so. Choosing which person puts me at gunpoint doesn't make it voluntary

[-] hemko@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You can also feed yourself by growing food or hunting. Neither of those are banned, just more inconvenient and you probably have some other skills to sell and buy food instead

[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can only do so on land that I purchased. Or on someone else's land I purchased the right to do so on

[-] hemko@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Then do that, or choose not to.

[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If I choose not to I die. I can buy the food from someone who already has it, I can buy the right to make my own food, or I can choose to starve to death

[-] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That costs money. I have to buy the right to hunt on public land or I go to prison for poaching

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can I interest you in CWA (Crackers With Attitude)'s Fuck The DNR?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are forced to buy food, shelter, healthcare, a vehicle (US). You are forced therefore to have a job to pay for these things. Employers know this, and suppress wages with those together, the proverbial gun.

this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2023
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