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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Suicide is violence

sorry that's simply your opinion. for most who seek it for medical reasons, it's the final escape. I don't have enough familiarity with this case to judge but would want the option open should I need it. You have no idea what kind of physical pain people have to live with - shit that can't be touched by opioids or other painkillers, like bone cancer. The only out for some of these folks is to be gorked to unconsciousness. I'd prefer to pass on that and go straight to the end myself.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -4 points 5 months ago

I would make an exception for someone with severe, incurable physical pain

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

the problem with exceptions is that they're often nebulous and lead to cover-your-ass decision making that disregards the best outcome for the patient. SEE: Texas birth control laws that supposedly have exceptions for the mother's health, but in fact result in them waiting for their once-fetus to send them into sepsis.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Texas birth control laws

I would simply not be a fascist pretending to care about people's rights and not design laws as if I were one.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

And that's great, but I have more faith in you - rando from the internet who's expressed clearly well meaning desires - than I do in the system, whether that's us's crappy healthcare, NHS in the uk or whatever - I do not have faith in governments and with healthcare providers impressed into the task of deciding who gets to claim their pain is unbearable.

And for the remainder: people will suicide. If you take away their options, they'll step in front of busses or jump off bridges, potentially traumatizing and putting others at risk. They'll suicide by cop, they'll drive their cars into the opposing lane. There's something to be said for giving people the dignity of choice.

Good luck.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I likewise don't have faith in governments or healthcare providers, but that's where I don't want to just place this in their hands and trust them to handle it in a responsible way.

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