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[-] sarge@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago

I mean… there is a LOT broken with the healthcare system in the US that you all know. However, in the US -granted you have the dime- you can get the best care in the world. If you can pay for that. If you have been to a hospital in the UK and to one in the US… you will exactly know what I mean.

However, this specific graphic shows that there are likely other contributors for higher life-expectancy than only professional/paid healthcare. E.g. lifestyle aspects like dietary consideration (Italy, Japan…).

Does not mean, that there is no need to fix the System.

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

UK hospitals have been excellent in my experience, though I've obviously only seen some of them.

Plus, although our system is very different from America in theory, our government has, for decades (especially under the Conservative Party), been undermining the NHS through cuts, market-based policy decisions and creeping attempts at privatisation.

If the NHS was supported the way it deserves to be, it would be even better than it already is.

[-] sarge@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

NHS underfunding is notorious. Not sure how situation has developed but I have seen quite some hospitals in the UK until 2016… Cannot really imagine it developed to the better. All the worst compared to continental Europe. And the few ones I saw in the US where excellent too. Of course some are exceptional in the UK. Not sure how situation has changed since 2016 though.

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Fair points. And, of course, I've never been in a US hospital, so they may be like Xanadu in comparison :-)

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago

Actually Australia is pretty high up. High radiation (i.e. skin cancer), I dont expect a way better diet than in the US.

[-] sarge@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

Sure, it is just not as one dimensional as this cherry picked graphic implies. Education is also a likely contributor.

The optimization would be : cost low, life expectancy at max… however… it is not that easy… ‚Let’s Just copy the system of Japan‘ just would not work… or maybe it would!

However, best healthcare will not help you if have a unhealthy lifestyle which is known to be a common issue in the US especially. Not sure how it is about Australia though!

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