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submitted 6 months ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/12631640

OLED monitor momentum expected to continue — analysts expect 1.34 million units shipped by year end

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[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I'm so glad that we are moving away from screens that will last 20+ years to screens that will be in a landfill after 2 years because of burn in.

[-] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

My TV is OLED and is five years old with zero burn in. It's much less common now unless you're a taxi driver.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago

Do you use your tv for work 8+ hours a day with static elements on the screen at all times?

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

My TV

  • moves static pictures around a bit
  • has an aggressive screen saver, then power down
  • streaming devices are fairly aggressive about sleeping/ power down
  • there’s only so many hours to watch TV
  • most video has a lot of dark

Those are great features to combat burnin and save energy, and no big deal on my TV. However those would be aggravating on a monitor I’m trying to work at, plus most of the monitor is bright

[-] Reawake9179@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Pixels are dying on my LG OLED TV in under 5 years, that's a common issue, i'm fine with it watching media, but desktop usage use the whole picture and that shit would be thrown out.

I couldn't have been better to the panel.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

I've had mine for two years without burn ins

[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run -1 points 6 months ago
[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

How is a screen saver supposed to do anything to prevent burn in from games that have static images like the UI in an MMO or the scoreboard in a sports game?

[-] TheChurn@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

Most OLEDs today ship with logo detection and will dampen the brightness on static elements automatically.

While it isn't a silver bullet, it does help reduce burn in since it is strongly linked to heat, and therefore to the pixel brightness. New blue PHOLEDs are expected to also cut burn in risk. Remember that LCDs also used to have burn in issues, as did CRTs.

[-] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And other means of preventing it like pixel shift and refresh. Time will tell how long the current generation lasts but it's only going to get more and more easily mitigated.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 1 points 6 months ago
[-] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I suppose you could make software that periodically screenshots the thing, generates an average of the screenshots, and then sets a screensaver image that's the inverse of that.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago

Yeah no I doubt it

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I have burn in on mine but honestly I barely notice it and realized it's not as big of an issue for me haha.

[-] Thrashy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

On the one hand, I agree with you that the expected lifespan of current OLED tech doesn't align with my expectation of monitor life... But on the other hand, I tend to use my monitors until the backlight gives out or some layer or other in the panel stackup shits the bed, and I haven't yet had an LCD make it past the decade mark.

In my opinion OLED is just fine for phone displays and TVs, which aren't expected to be lit 24/7 and don't have lots of fixed UI elements. Between my WFH job and hobby use, though, my PC screens are on about 10 hours a day on average, with the screen displaying one of a handful of programs with fixed, high contrast user interfaces. That's gonna put an OLED panel through the wringer in quite a bit less time than I have become used to using my LCDs, and that's not acceptable to me.

[-] monoboy@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

I think a lot of modern OLED panels will do a pixel shift if they detect a static image for too long. I never notice it on my TV, but might be more noticable on a monitor that you are closer to.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Sure but this is one of the differences between tv and monitor.

  • tv time is max a few hours, lots of dark, lots of movement, pixel shifting has no impact
  • work monitor is 8+ hours, close work, high brightness/contrast. I don’t know if pixel shifting is noticeable but it’s more likely, plus there’s more static element, more bright, more contrast
[-] monoboy@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

RTings does a lot of long term OLED burn in tests usually displaying CNN since red tends to cause burn in better

Here is a pretty recent video on it including some monitors. It's interesting that ultra wide monitors have more problems than regular 16:9 ones.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

New OLED screens are very resilient to burn-ins. You can check for yourself. And mind you, the majority of users won't have any problems with burn ins because of the way they are using those monitors, this test is far from how the majority of users will use their monitors. https://libreddit.oxymagnesium.com/r/hardware/comments/180cc44/rtings_10_month_update_permanent_burnin_oleds/

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