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Yet another SELF-HOSTED community
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this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
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The rules for behavior are a straight carry over of Mastodon.World's rules. You can click the link but we've reposted them here in brief, as a guideline. We will continue to use the Mastodon.World rules as the master list. Over all, be nice to each other and remember this isn't a community built around debate. For the rules about formatting your posts, scroll down to number 2.
1. Follow the rules of Mastodon.world, which can be found here.
A. Provide an inclusive and supportive environment. This means if it isn't rulebreaking and we can't be supportive to them then we probably shouldn't engage.
B. No illegal content.
C. Use content warnings where appropriate. This means mark your submissions NSFW if need be.
D. No uncivil behavior. This includes, but is not limited to: Name Calling; Bullying; Trolling; Disruptive Commenting; or Personal Criticisms.
E. No Harrassment. As an example in relation to Transgender people this includes, deadnaming, misgendering, and promotion of conversion therapy. Similarly Misogyny, Misandry, and Racism are also banned here.
2. Include a community title and description in your post title. - A following example of this would be New Communities - A place to post new communities all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
3. Follow the formatting. - The formatting as included below is important for people getting universal links across Lemmy as easily as possible.
Formatting
Please include this following format in your post:
[link text](/c/community@instance.com)
This provides a link that should work across instances, but in some cases it won't
You should also include either:
or instance.com/c/community
FAQ:
Q: Why do I get a 404?
A: At least one user in an instance needs to search for a community before it gets fetched. Searching for the community will bring it into the instance and it will fetch a few of the most recent posts without comments. If a user is subscribed to a community, then all of the future posts and interactions are now in-sync.
Q: When I try to create a post, the circle just spins forever. Why is that?
A: This is a current known issue with large communities. Sometimes it does get posted, but just continues spinning, but sometimes it doesn't get posted and continues spinning. If it doesn't actually get posted, the best thing to do is try later. However, only some people seem to be having this problem at the moment.
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Wait, why?
Are you saying that there is something wrong with all the communities you listed (to which I would also add !main@selfhosted.forum) ?
Are all the moderators against "believing into taking things into their own hands"?
It seems like yet-another community is just a manifestation of NIH syndrome. If you want to do it because you enjoy the exercise, fine. But then it makes little sense to also try to attract people that are already happy in other communities.
In the end, this seems like it does very little to help the ecosystem. Lemmy (and the Fediverse) in general is already struggling to keep people engaged, and this constant and unnecessary fragmentation makes everything worse.
I'd seriously ask you to reconsider this initiative. Let's strive to look for the best of things and keep united instead of sowing more division.
I added your one.
As for why. I just explained this recently actually. What I love about Lemmy is that there can be so many different flavours of communities that you can find the one that's a perfect fit for you.
I was a prolific poster in WORLD and loved it, I even made a post thanking everyone for helping there, but suddenly people decided they had a problem with posting updates and so I figured I'd find a better fit. Ramped up my activity on ML and then similarly people decided to take umbrage with the way links were posted, after a bit of kerfuffle, I ended up adding a line about what each service does to every release I posted.
Yesterday there were three releases that I notified the community about and today another three including a critical bug fix for something I posted yesterday.
As I went to clean out my inbox, I went to thank someone who notified me of a release and noticed I couldn't submit the response, when I investigated further, I saw my post was removed. Not just that post, all posts. I loaded up Lemmy in my browser, looked at the modlog and saw a moderator removed them citing I was posting random GitHub links. That's fine, as I said, different flavours, different fits. But I would've appreciated a heads up, especially as I feel I've done a lot to keep that community feeling active. Never mind though.
Luckily, when the kerfuffle occurred, I went looking for a host for a community whereby I wouldn't have to worry about people complaining about me doing something I found valuable when others did it. Amusingly, I looked at selfhosted.forum and they didn't have a selfhosted, so I continued to look and found libretechni.ca and ended up making the community myself.
I just want to be able to post when software updates come out and help whomever I can with the paltry knowledge I've acquired without offending or bothering anyone. It's not a slight on anyone or a criticism of anyone, just a desire to try and share the excitement, joy and fulfillment I get from self hosting.
If you think that posting about any reasonably important project is important, then fine. But then again, I'd reason that the people that share your belief would already be to the relevant RSS feeds, no? Maybe the whole thing that you are trying to do could be replaced with a "PSA" style post, where you link a OPML list of RSS feeds from the projects that are worth tracking?
Prior to the posts being deleted, their scores were overwhelmingly positive. It just so happens that some people weren't appreciative and that's fine. Not everything is for everyone.
I know that before I set up my N8N, I had no way of tracking releases that weren't intrusive and I know what when people posted releases, it gave me something to look into.
There was even a time when because a release was posted, when someone encountered a problem, I was able to identify it and help them. To me that's what a community is. Sharing and helping.
Even now, I'm still excited enough to watch the terminal as I do
docker-compose pullwhile I drink my tea and when things that my N8N missed pop up, I rush like an excited child to tell people that an update for something they may be running is out. And since the other self hosted communities don't appreciate it, why wouldn't I create one that does?Too much of a good thing can still be bad. I made the same mistake with the alien.top bots.
Indeed, but I'm not a bot. I'm a human. But ultimately, that's why I made a new community, so no one who doesn't want to deal with it, doesn't have to feel like their space was hijacked to facilitate it.
May I suggest a self host software update / news community instead? It would cover your need and still not fragment. Maybe even a separate one that is just vulnerability posts would be nice for option to subscribe to what you want to see.
I've had this sitting in my inbox all day because to be quite frank with you, I found it troubling.
I can't speak for everyone, but when I joined Lemmy, it was because I believed in decentralization amongst other things. So when you speak of fragmentation, my feelings are essentially akin to bafflement.
I'm just one person and am running a miniscule community to discuss a topic. I highly doubt that the members that have subscribed are going to stop posting in WORLD or ML.
You're basically suggesting that the first group has some sort of right over smaller groups and that's fundamentally untrue.
When willya started his Sex Memes community, NSFW memes was already up and running and has thousands of subscribers, however because of the way he runs his community, his is presently the most successful one. That doesn't fragment the meme community, it strengthens it.
I don't subscribe to the idea that the first or the biggest is the best. There's plenty of, let's call them legacy groups, on Lemmy, where the moderators have no presence whatsoever and what, everyone should use their groups? No.
The best groups, with the best moderators and the best admins will rise to the top and they absolutely should, because they're the best. Not because of where they're hosted or when they were started. It's why I'm so vehemently against automatically merging groups, because let's be honest, some moderators are dick heads and don't deserve to bathe in the success of groups that keep their users safe and engaged.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks. Though I promise that my tiddly community shan't steal perceivable engagement from WORLD any time soon. And if it does, it'll be great for the Fediverse as WORLD is, comparatively speaking, too big already anyway.
I wasn't criticizing making another self hosted community exactly. I like the thought of them broken up as separate communities so
Not everything is for everyone. Some updates are cool, some updates are important (like the hotfix fallout from Immich and Paperless) and some are mundane. But I would like to create a culture of people reading about and discussing updates, enough so that developers start to post the updates themselves or comment in update posts.
That's not a community I would like to foster. I wouldn't be happy with people considering requests for help as clutter.