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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

The two main parties are so big that they don't need to collude. Every single component of our media will do the work for them.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Colluding involves communication and coordinated ation. They don't need to collude because excluding third parties is in their best interest.

Both parties are still wary after the outcome in 1992 when Ross Perot received nearly 20% of the vote after being included in the debates. Neither want to risk having a wildcard on stage.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

Neither want to risk having a wildcard on stage

Well thats really none of their business so long as this is a democracy. What they want is irrelevant.

He's polling high enough. He should be included.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

Debates are not some kind of regulated and managed thing that exists for candidates to show up to. They are hosted by third parties and all of the rules and setup are decided by the third party and the political parties, so of course rhe two big names get to didctate how they are run. Even having a minimum amount of polling is subjective and part of the process of setting up the debate. If both of the major parties won'rlt show up if a third party candidate with around 10% in the polls is included, the the debate will exclude that third party candidate.

How the hell is captain brain worms polling at 10% without stealing a bunch of votes from Trump? This country is doomed.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

This is more of a warning to not listen to pollsters. 10% of voters are definitely not going to vote for this guy, maybe one or two percent. Clearly the polls are way off.

Don't even listen to them. Vote. Help your favored candidate. Donate if you want to. Help get out the vote.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

They are self-governing organizations of private citizens. What they want is actually all that matters when it comes to when and where they put their candidate on a stage. As corrupting as political parties can be at times, they're still just groups of citizens who agree to field a candidate in elections. They are under no obligation to give airtime to literally anyone they don't want to win, and so they're under no obligation to do literally anything to help RFK Jr between now and November.

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