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[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well, regardless of what you think of their politics, that's a huge loss for a country with the position Iran is in right now. I hope they manage to keep calm and prevent foreign shit starting.

[-] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 6 months ago

It's mind boggling to me that lemmygrad is the only place I've yet seen anyone show some sort of respect for a world leader dying in a violent accident. Everywhere in the media and online all I'm seeing is people glad he's dead. As if he's ever done anything to any of us to deserve that.

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Wasn't he pretty involved in the suppression of women? All I've read is that he generally wasn't well liked by any group of the citizenry of Iran

I can understand people feeling concern for Iran's people and trajectory during a tumultuous time like this, but I don't think anyone should feel bad he's gone. He wasn't a good person

[-] pressurized@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

That an interesting way of looking at it. If you can find any purity argument for why a politician wasn't progressive (he wasn't btw) then it's a good thing for them to just go up in a fireball. Politics by process of elimination! Say, Yemenis invited Jackson Hinkle to a Zoom conference. Maybe they should go die, too, because they're more backward than you and the removeds got to them first! Hell, my favorite Burkina Faso reporting account randomly veers into Christian grimposting about gay people (me).

Just ignore all context for why people are nervous about this in the first place (Iran is playing a critical role in breaking the illusion of US hegemony and this could even be a pointless assassination)! Woo hoo! Billionaire down!

It's not like this is going to make the political situation better in Iran if you view it that way. Now he will be memorialized for dying in the midst of a great struggle.

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net -2 points 6 months ago

You may be misreading my post, I'm not celebrating his death, only questioning why leftists are seemingly mourning his death outside of the impacts it could have to Iran

My point was seeing it as something like the death of Putin on a smaller scale: aware it will cause internal and external political ripples which could be bad for the people but not someone we should be mourning

[-] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Go ahead and find any other president out there who has firmly spoken out against the Zionist entity like he has and shown as much support for the Palestinians, and who have actually executed military strikes against the occupier towards that end. That alone is respectable enough to make any sensible person feel bad to see him go.

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

I can understand that, but I'd be surprised to see an Iranian president who didn't speak out against the entity

[-] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 months ago

He didn't do jack. He was a machine politician sock puppet, anything Iran did came from others, like generals, the political party, and Khamenei

[-] pressurized@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Maybe, before I just read it like you were taking everyone reflecting on the timing of this and Iran's unusual place as a reactionary govt put in a broadly progressive position in the international struggle, especially the decolonization of Palestine, as making a knee jerk reactions here. Especially with the way you're casually feeling out how amenable this chat is going to be to Iran regime change posting today. (Genocide's still going, try again later.)

I would imagine people are disturbed by this because he was a man who many see as an ally in the Palestinian struggle for decolonization even if they disagree with him on hundreds if not thousands of points which would be deemed heretical in Iran.

[-] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 months ago

People are mourning? I haven't seen it; even on Hexbear it's more of a shrug and "no helicopter" jokes

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 months ago

I'm not mourning his death so I cannot answer your question, sorry

[-] pressurized@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Why did you mourn Matt Christman when he never did anything other than do drugs and rant on podcasts? Not to echo the contemptible Drew Pavlou...

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