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After $700 Million U.S. Bailout, Trucking Firm Is Shutting Down
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Yes give people money for not doing anything. Thats fair. There is places with universal Healthcare, ask them how that works. Well doesn't work more like. Free college will have big ramafications. What good will a degree be if everyone has one. Then everyone will have to get a university degree and cry about loan forgiveness for that.
Ask Sweden, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands. People like you are what's wrong with the world. I bet you're one of those people who thinks poor people only exist because they're lazy and need to pull themselves up by their fucking bootstraps.
Weird that people from all these great places come to America for real Healthcare. That's weird. There is many reasons why people are broke. Some of them are self inflicted, some aren't.
They come to America for very specialized health care, and only that.
And you know why?
They won't be bankrupted for an injury or illness in their own countries, and not a god damn one of them is going to sign up for American health care once they look at the medical bills we get for routine shit.
So strange that while the Healthcare is free that it takes months on a waiting list to get basic surgery. That most of it can't be done there. Almost like the hospitals don't have the time or money to treat everyone. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Repeating bumper sticker slogans doesn't change facts.
If Europeans wanted American-style health care, every European country would have it. They don't. They'd rather not mortgage their homes for health care like we do.
There's a reason why the rest of the world doesn't do health care the way they do. They don't want to be left for dead when they can't pay a price-gouged medical bill.
Well that would be a huge bumper sticker. No idea where you found that before. You really think the people have a choice? The European people have less of a say about their government than we do.
@UmbrellAssassin @wanderingmagus
Nope. But do go on about things you know little about.
Glass houses blah blah blah.
You and I both know that the odds are stacked, between the haves, and have nots. And for the halves to tell the have nots to suck it up and just pull up on their bootstraps doesn't always work.
The first group of people (aka haves) getting into power forceify their power base so that only they and their friends benefit from it.
Democracy is supposed to prevent that, but it's only as good at preventing that as it is the people you elect to office.
I wasn't born with a silver spoon up my ass. I worked my ass off and used any resources that I could find. It took time and hard work. I didn't sit around waiting for a handout and being upset at the world for not getting it.
I did as well, and was successful in doing so, but it definately wasn't a fair/equal field to walk through, which goes to my point.
The world isn't fair. It is impossible to be fair to everyone and having and real world experience would show they. Especially since fair is subjective.
The World is what you make of it.
The world is what it is currently. You can change your perspective or option on it, but that is only internal. You can change how you react and deal with the world.
You've missed the understanding of what that phrase represents.
I'm pretty sure you are taking that quote way to literally. That or you apply it to others and not yourself.
What proof do you have of this?
That's boomer talk there. Always worried about everyone else rather than themselves. "you shouldn't have a good life because I worked my ass of for 6 hours a day in a factory job that afforded me a nice a house and two car payments with money to spare on steak everyday. The same job now that you'd need a roommate to live in a one bedroom apartment and ride a bike to work while eating shit food. Get over yourself.
Please don't be Ageist. It's not an age thing, it's how you were raised thing.
Some of us "Boomers" (I'm actually first gen Gen-X but keep getting called a Boomer) actually do care about others, especially the generations coming up behind us, and want to strive for a win-win scenario for everyone.
It becomes an age thing when someone is talking shit about a younger generation not wanting to work or anything like that because as I said, back in their day a shit factory job was enough income to afford a house and two cars.
The "how you were raised" is a bunch of shit too. It's who you decided to become.
But that's not automatic based just on the biological timestamp of the people expressing the opinions. And not everyone in that classification agrees with each other.
Yes, different generations have different living conditions, but don't say they're wrong just because they are a Boomer (which is usually used to signal that they are automatically out of touch and should be ignored), you say its based on the times/society they lived in instead which formed their opinion, and not their physical age.
And you decide who you want to become based on the society you live in at the point of time you're growing up and living in it, as its society which forces the rules to live by.
As time goes by and newer generations show up over the decades, they revise the rules of society and then yes at that point you're supposed to change with them (but only if you agree with them; free will is a bitch), but you also have a hard coded base of beliefs already and rules that you've lived your life by that you've learned from earlier days.
You can't hand wave that away no matter how much you want to. People do get set in their ways based on the society time frame they grew up in, and not their biological timestamp. If you want to change their minds you have to understand that fact and work with it.
I'm not saying overall you're wrong, older generations are supposed to update their belief systems to match the times they're living in now. But to ignore the fact that humans don't like change won't solve any problems.
I'm not a boomer and it isn't a boomer mentality to think people should work for the things they want. If you really think that 6 hours is a long shift, just wait until you actually get a job. It is hard if you get an easy job. That's a choice. So is getting a low yield degrees. Those are choices. If you choose the easy way now, don't complain about the outcome later.
Hi, US Navy submariner here with an "actual job" that can last 16+ hours a day regardless of rank when underway. I think it's bullshit civilians are forced to work 5 day weeks and 9 to 5 jobs in the 21st century when automation is literally right there and other first world countries already have free Healthcare and college. I am certainly not complaining about Tricare that I receive as a servicemember, or the job security, or the government provided housing I could ask for at any time if I needed it, or the tuition assistance I can use to go to college. I think all citizens should get these same privileges.
Was it Scotland that did free college and what happened? People got bullshit degrees and complained that they didn't get them anywhere. Countries with free Healthcare not being able to take care of people in a timely manner forcing them to spend huge amounts of money going to other countries. While still getting taxes for Healthcare. Free doesn't mean free. Governments don't make money. They take money from their people and use that.
I see people who work 50-70 hours a week, and even with all that overtime they cannot afford their medical expenses, or they're being forced out of their rental due to the landlord selling the property and now they have to cope with a move to a more expensive place that no longer fits their budget, they also have $60k in student debt on a degree that didn't get them the job they have (despite being told by "experts" that you get a bachelors/masters or you're useless, all to enter a saturated field that wasn't saturated 2-4 years ago), and they can't afford a reliable vehicle.
It must be nice to have that silver spoon you were gifted with, but there are many more who work hard but still have fallen off the edge of our system with no safety net. This isn't about working for things you want, this is about people having the means to take care of their needs.
Quite frankly your view is narrow and outdated, hence the people that think you're a boomer. If it's so easy, then by all means tell us what the hundreds of millions of people should be doing without the canard advice of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, because that is a chickenshit weak argument by privileged fuckheads who have no clue.
You can't blame a landlord for doing what's best for them. They can't take the hit for people just cause it is hard for them. What experts are you talking about? If people didn't research before hand, they are the only ones to blame. Yes the automotive market sucks, yes the housing market sucks. That doesn't mean crying about it and waiting for a handout will fix anything. I didn't have any spoons. When was going to college I realized I couldn't afford it and the degree I wanted wasn't going to work for me, got a job, worked my ass off hopping from job to job trying to find something. When my car broke down, I didn't get the car I want, I got a car that works and can get me places. Slowly moved up while finishing up a degree that can actually do something, found a stable job and now going back for a bs in something that might not be what I wanted to do with my life, but something that can help me lead the life I want. I've been trying to buy a house for years and instead of jumping into the first opportunity that looks good, I'm waiting and researching to make sure I don't put myself in a worse position. You are your safety net. You shouldn't expect someone else to pick up after you when you make mistakes unless you are a child. People like you confuse want and need. You want a nice fancy car, but you don't need it. You want a huge house, but then you are setting yourself up for failure. I've know people that didn't have the best start to their lives and made the best of it and found resources that could help. The people around them that just sat around complaining without doing anything about it are still doing just that. All you can do is call my argument names and complain that you should have shit handed to you. What's your argument? What's your way to fix things that doesn't include bitching on the internet?
So you don't believe that for the past 40 years, the prevalent career advice given to the youth is to go to college? The experts range from professors, politicians, executives, economists, K-12 schools, to pretty much anybody that chimes in on what everyone should do after high school. If you're unaware of the advice given for half a century to young adults, then its no surprise you're a completely out of touch moron.
You're absolutely right, which is why its important to recognize the problem and then support the policies that fix it, because the ~~free~~ rigged market's only been making it worse.
That you had the means, indicates you had a privilege the majority of people don't have. Luck got you through all that, not your hard work. Contribution bias is a bitch, and it's time you recognize it. Refusing to acknowledge the role luck played for you is exactly what makes you an asshole.
So by your own logic, we should abolish the ADA, disability, and social security, along with public highways, streetlights, and EMTALA. We should just all be our own safety nets, and fall over dead because of bad luck. It seems like you're all about luck that favors you, while discounting the misfortunes that happen to others. Sounds like a typical conservative, privatize your profits but subsidize your losses eh?
EMTALA passed a real long time ago because we as a country decided that life should take value over "muh profits". I should remind you, EMTALA was signed into law by Reagan. People need a home, access to healthcare, and a way to get to work. Since public transit is unpopular in most of North America, cars are the option available. Funny how you twist my words around to assume when I say "and they can’t afford a reliable vehicle" you infer that I meant a "fancy car". Same for the allegory of a place to live. People are expected to pay thousands per month for shitty housing infected with bed bugs, roaches, or have faulty heating and electrical.
Judging by the terrible grammar, I'll bet you've been working on your degree for a very long time, and will continue to do so. I'm convinced you're lying, and that you actually are an ignorant 50+ year old dumbass boomer. You're so full of shit or you're so out of touch, your idiotic and flaccid opinions may as well be scrawled in shit on the side of some dank subway tunnel, with flies buzzing around it.
Enjoy extinction, you're a dinosaur.
I'm aware that people are pushed to go to college. I'm just not a moron enough to think that every degree is worth the same at the end of the day. If you didn't study up on your path in life, well tough shit. You decided to get a degree in humanities, well your going to live with the consequences. Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to what you study mattering. Unless you really didn't pass middle school reading comprehension and still somehow can act high and mighty. The problem isn't just the "system" it's also about the individual. I actually am starting to feel bad for you. I understand the exact kind of person you are. The kind that can't comprehend that they didn't work hard enough so all they can do it say everyone else is lucky. I'm sorry sweetheart. You just suck. Nice straw man, I hate bringing up these kind of terms but your responses are typical social media brain damaged crap. It's sweet you think you can argue. Ohhh, thousands for a shit house? So your going to blame other people that you aren't smart enough to move somewhere cheaper and with a better quality of life? What's next? You gonna blame Trump that your shoes are untied? Those damn conservatives. Got any other hot button words to throw out? Enjoy the image of that subway tunnel, that's the only place your simple minded, victim mentality, my problems are everyone else's fault, attitude will get you. I'm sure once you get some real life under your belt, you'll realize how. cringy you sounded. Well hopefully. Just remember, money only solves money problems. Your are still the same person on the inside. You can get your student loans erased, you will just find something else to bitch about. A happy life cannot be bought, it has to be earned. Go out there and get it, maybe you'll stop being so miserable. First step is to stop blaming everything else on your issues and look inside.
@UmbrellAssassin @wanderingmagus
So better to have millions with no healthcare at all, dying at a far younger age than need be?
You know nothing young padawan.
There is options for people of they can't afford Healthcare. That's like complaining that you don't have a 401k when you are the only person to blame. If we are throwing out star wars quotes, "There is no ignorance, there is knowledge". People choose to be ignorant about their options because it is easier to complain and wait for something to fall into their laps.
You're either a shit troll or a bot. Go back to reddit.
Look, not every opinion that you don't agree with is a troll. >go back to reddit. Says the person that joined 3 weeks ago. Nice. How about you go back if all you want is a echo chamber. Reddit was perfect for that. The prefect place to pretend your the smartest person because you could report and ban everyone that didn't agree with your narrow minded viewpoint.
Read that comment you just wrote, slowly, to yourself.
I can read. Can you? Or better yet, can you understand what you read?
Clearly a bot. Your algorithm needs work.