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How is making them die not cruel?
You can still provide them a good environment which is something we should focus since it's apparent that people aren't going to stop eating meat.
Many people don't eat meat though?
Is that an argument? Many also eat meat and starting to treat animals well is a step in the right direction. Perfect is the enemy of good.
So true, we had always slaves and it will never stop. We need to start treating our slaves better, no doubt, but aboliation is never going to happen, we just need to support the good slave owners.
Who is saying we shouldn't stop eating meat? I'm saying it's 1000 times easier to take the step to treat them better than cut meat consumption all together.
But man are you something bringing slaves into this. Sure, go ahead and you do your thing and try to stop everyone eating meat while the mass farmed animals keep getting treated like shit. At least you were right, slavery is a bad thing and shouldn't have happened.
I was just saying its 1000 times easier to treat slaves better than to cut it all together. If Bezos would pay his workers better and let them take a piss on a real toilet it would destroy the profits. Once robots are cheaper and faster I will be the first to stop supporting slavery, but until then I have no choice.
Your comparison is fucking stupid. Slaves are human! They are exactly the same as their owners! Animals are not. It's disrespectful.
So you don't care about non human animals, do you feel superior to them? Is that your excuse why you support the abuse and killing of them? If you are pro dog meat please buy responsible: https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/meet-the-dogs
Wow so edgy. Fuck off asshole.
You....do know other animals eat each other right? We're not herbivores and never have been. You also cannot switch everyone to a plant based diet, it's just as damaging to the planet as to much cattle.
Animals rape each other, right?
Here is what happens if we don't switch to a plant based diet:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357
https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets
https://ourworldindata.org/food-ghg-emissions
Yes because I forgot how animals can consent to carry on their species...the fuck does that have to do with them eating meat?
Did you read your own source?
It's the 4th paragraph down??? If you think plants don't require fertilizers, farm equipment burning fuel, and land clearing...then I've got a bridge to sell you.
So basically, fat people are a huge cause for our increase in GHG and people who waste food. Even their plant based diet, still has meat in it.
You're other two links gathered data and has a ton of assumptions in it because the majority of cattle land cannot be used for crops, it's either way to rocky, or the soil is complete shit. You do realize as well these estimates include the literal millions of acres that Australia use for free range cattle, and the same as in the USA right?
So a cow which will eat straight up anything you cannot consume is going to roam in this large vast areas, and because it does so, all of a sudden it's 1000k takes up a lot more space. Space which cannot be used for crops.
Why do you only highlight some items? Everything could be reduced by 3/4 with a plant based diet. No change will result in +2°C. Once it hits +4°C there is no more animal agriculture.
Your nature argument is flawed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy You can't justify your behavior with wild animals.
Because you pointed out like veganism is going to save the planet...and I pointed out, that it's bullshit using your own sources.
No it couldn't, I've already pointed this out...hell 75+% of our GHGs aren't from food production.
So why are we focusing on the smallest area? Vs trying to fix the 75% of shit that isn't keeping us alive?
Did...did you just point me to a wiki article on philosophical ethics? The fuck lol. I was also responding to the person who said making an animal die is cruel...you keep being a militant vegan...and I'll keep eating meat.