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[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

this is what Joe Biden gives us

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Oh, I didn't know Joe Biden packed the court with fashy theocrats. I thought it was Trump, and these fashy theocrats just waited until Trump lost to make Joe Biden look bad by undermining his governance.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

tell any story you like. the story I know has Biden in DC for 50 years, even serving on the judiciary committee. I hold him at least partly responsible for Trump's election in 2016, and will blame him for in 2024, too. he laid the groundwork for fascism to flourish.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

You're blaming Biden in particular for Thomas and Trump? He's not blameless for confirming Clarence. Though, of course, he is one of many responsible there and a conservative judge like Clarence was a forgone conclusion under the Bush 1 administration. And I can't imagine how you justify blaming Biden for Trump's first presidency. Because he didn't run for president in 2016? Because he was a part of the Obama administration that led to the Trump administration? Either way, his responsibility is so marginal as to be confusing to even consider him culpable.

There's plenty to be dissatisfied or angry about with Biden that are directly and primarily or solely his fault. So why are you singling him out for those two things that are barely his responsibility at all, if at all?

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I can’t imagine how you justify blaming Biden for Trump’s first presidency

he spent 50 years shaping the political landscape. the rise of fascism didn't happen because donald trump ran for president. his run was made possible by the rising fascism.

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It’s not even an issue for her.

ANITA HILL VOTED FOR BIDEN.

But for you? I’m sure Biden also stubbed your toe.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

some people don't know what is in their own interest.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

So the sore-loser wannabe dictator is the answer? We are between a rock and a fascist place. I vote rock.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

from my perspective it's two fascists. i'm not voting for either of them.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

So young and naive. Unfortunately your opportunity to influence the process was in the primary.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

you do t know anything about my identity, and I'm not naive at all: I know what fascism is. its capitulating to the military industrial complex and jailing or killing anyone who threatens the states power.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 0 points 5 months ago

Well then I guess the choice in your mind is:

  1. dude not openly making public statements on how president's can do whatever and not go to jail. or
  2. dude actively and openly trying to do opposite of option 1

I know what my choice would be. If you are in a battle ground state please vote.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

he's not trying to do the opposite, he's trying to keep himself in power.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

Sure biden wants to stay president after he claimed he was a 1 term president. I think issue there was presidential incumbent has higher chance of success than challenger and DNC doesn't want to take risks with Trump.

Trump is literally talking about president killing rivals and getting away with it and Reichs. I never heard Biden say anything at that level openly.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And yet you accuse Anita Hill, someone you know nothing about, that she's voting against her own interests and didn't know what she wants.

The hypocrisy and stupidity is strong with this one.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I'm saying she may not know. it's not an accusation.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 5 months ago

the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

that's not what anyone here said

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

And what, right now, is in our own interest?

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I don't presume to know. I am only saying we can't assume anyone is actually acting in their own rational self interest since we know people so often do not. Anita Hill is no exception.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I'm sure I don't need to point out the irony here, right?

I do want to point out that if no one can be trusted to act in their own self-interest, who then should act on their behalf?

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

you don't seem to be very good at handling nuance, and i don't feel qualified to help you understand this.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

on Lemmy for a single day, proceeds to only post biden whataboutism bullshit. gtfo troll

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

calling me names doesn't change whether my concerns are legitimate

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago

I think the issue here is you didn't actually voice any of your concerns until much later in the conversation. The equivalent of "Lol Biden bad" isn't very helpful or bound to be well received unless either the content being commented informs the statement or you care to explain yourself.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

i think the issue is the personal attacks that persist against anyone who dares challenge the orthodoxy. i think a civil discussion could have been had, with no need for name-calling, or poisoning the well about the age of my account or teh topics that interest me.

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