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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/tenforward@lemmy.world

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And you would have known you’d been swapped how? What if someone came up to you and said that they have irrefutable proof that you were replaced with a clone of yourself a few years ago. How would you know the difference unless told. And even once told, what does it matter if you can’t pinpoint the exact day?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

If it already happened, there's nothing to be done. But if I find out that there's a thing that I'm doing every single day that's killing me and making a copy, I'll simply stop doing that thing

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

I guess that’s where I’m confused like OP is. What difference does it make at that point? You’ve been going through it countless times, nothing has changed, you were no different, so what does it matter?

It’s like the people that are anti-vaxxers, they’re freaked out with no basis that “it’s changing who I am!” even though there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary (I would assume general transporter tech wouldn’t be available to the masses if it wasn’t in this scenario)

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Strictly speaking, I've never used a transporter before. It's important to nail down specific definitions and concepts here. What do I mean when I say I? I'm referring to the human using the alias starman2112; the individual entity typing right now. I've gone more in-depth in other comments, but essentially I am the ongoing chemical reactions between the neurons in my brain. This reaction has been perturbed, interfered with, but never stopped.

In what way am I still "me" after being transported? I'm precisely the same person, right? But I'm not. I'm a perfect copy of the last person. Say the transporter failed to dismantle him when he stepped into it. Does he see what I see? Hear what I hear? No. We are separate people. So if it had dismantled him, would he see what I see, hear what I hear? Still no, of course. He's gone. He doesn't see or hear anything anymore.

Now that I understand that, despite having countless memories of stepping into and out of transporters, how could I possibly bring myself to step into one "again?" In reality, it would be the first time for me, and I would be dooming myself to never see or hear again, unless it malfunctions and fails to dismantle me.

I don't appreciate the comparison with anti-vaxxers. The problems with transporters are not based on lies or incorrect assumptions, it's based on the fact that it kills you and creates a copy.

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