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Fuck. I can't even imagine. :(
Yeah, I just finished reading and I don't understand why the world is not acting. Why can Israel act with impunity. The Western nations have clearly shown that the rules are different for non-white people and that their lives are not as valuable. The hypocrisy is shameful. These are people with dreams and hopes just like us. The language used by the government, describing Palestinians as vermin and animals emboldens the settlers. There seem to be few repercussions for killing a Palestinian, if any. Israel keeps saying ups this was a mistake and ups we bulldozed entire villages and ups, a mass grave. They say they will investigate but when they do, they find no wrong doing or just a misdemeanour or an error. The whole situation is a clusterfuck, any other country would be sanctioned at the least, and ostracised. And why are the other Arab nations not helping Palestine more? I understand the situation is complicated, but there are many diplomatic measures to put pressure on Israel without getting involved in the fighting.
This is exactly what pisses me off about all of this... it's 2024, we see live footage on various platforms, and the "leaders" make eurovision-like decisions all over the past few months.
It's not 1945 where they used to make decisions based on hearsay, its 2024 ffs, with live footage.
They spread fakenews about beheaded babies without any proof and justified the killings. But the footage that clearly shows acts of crime isn't remotely considered to stop this cruelty.
Israel is enabled by the USA for the last 75 years. They vetoed every resolution even condemning Israeli atrocities.
There's multiple reasons:
Simple watch this:
Stop voting for Genocide Joe vote third party.
So trump can make it wayyyy better/s
Third party hasn't been remotely close to having a chance in recent history, so this shitty anti-thought is just handing the reins to trump, who will very obviously make it way worse. But then again that's what you want, isn't it linker?
Votingn for either party is continuing this bullshit indefinitely.
Not voting, is what they want you to do ifnyiuaint voting for their team
Third party vote is a vote of no confidence for the current regime. Voting for either provides the regime with legitimacy.
Wrong Wrong Wrong
I will never ever be convinced by the absolute hogwash Zero validity to it whatsoever.
Only wrong if you are emotionally or otherwise invested in the two party system... Which has failed to provide any results for working people since at least 1970s.
No third party got enough votes to do anything but Fuck up one campaign or or another, at least for a few decades that's been true. Exactly what good does that do? Absolutely no one will get "the message" from your 4% of the population (I'm being pretty generous there. Don't get your hopes up) protest votes. All you can do is help trump by doing that
The protest vote has failed to achieve anything since the always. Is it possible you don't know that? Or is the goal specifically to help trump?
Biden's blind Israel support is helping trump more than my shit post tbh
You people going around spreading anti Biden sentiment like to pretend to be martyrs, but you're 1000% hurting Palestinians more than Biden ever could. You pretend it doesn't matter that you'll elect trump and the horrors will grow in size, but it fucking matters. It will be your fault. Your conscious will not be clean no matter how many times you pretend otherwise
Yes american politics enabling Israeli war crimes is my fault
And if I don't vote biden, it is even more so my fault.
Cheers!
No make sure trump is elected and sleep like a baby about all those Palestinians you murdered
Mental illness spotted.
Yes sociopaths probably do think empathy is a sickness
Genocide denier lecturing people on how they are "hurting Palestinians" lmao.
Of course! Everyone loves genocide unless they agree with you that Biden personally orders bombings of Palestinians. that's all that matters.
Trump's gonna love sending extra genocide money once you hand him the election (totally accidentally too)
That would just make things worse. Trump would be worse for those protesting Israel's actions and for Palestinians themselves.
https://wapo.st/3wSKnDY
It's because of this Pavlovian BUT TRUMP reaction that israel is committing Genocide right now.
Than you for proving my point.
You can be damn sure if Biden’s poll numbers dropped to 20% he’d pivot so fast and the media would laud that as courage.
My link is literally Trump talking about Israel and Palestine. It isn't a "but Trump is bad" article, it's directly relevant to this issue.
The israeli Post pretending that Biden isn't currently having pro Palestine protesters brutally beaten up by the cops is conveniently not highlighted
Both of them would do what Biden is doing right now.
The president does not control the police nor campus police or campus administration. It would be a hell of a lot easier across the board if they did.
Can you prove that the Biden administration is behind the persecution of the protestors, specifically, and not individual police departments? Trump sounds like he would want to order the national guard or military to do this.
I have no direct evidence, but it's not at all far-fetched. The Obama administration set up a coordinated effort to share intelligence and plan tactics for the crackdown on Occupy Wall Street across the FBI, state and local police forces, and the banks themselves. The uniformity and brutality of the response to the university anti-genocide protests is... curious, at least.
it's absolutely hillarious that you require concrete evidence of actions Biden doing something yet Trump only has to say words. The Democrats used the police violence! They pumped rubber bullets into peaceful protesters like no tomorrow! Biden condoned the police violence and praised it. Painting all protesters as a violent mob. Genocide Joe went full fascist mode during the demonstrations and we're somehow still in pretend land.
Furthermore the Democrats were literally bribed by the israelis to call in the police on the protesters to violently shut them down. Many of the Zionists bribing the Democrats are the exact same people that bribe Republicans.
You're confusing a lot of groups together here. Trying to influence the NYC mayor and public opinion is very different from bribing Democrats as a whole. IIRC the mayor is quite right wing too, like a Manchin type.
There's also a significant difference here -- Trump is saying what he would do. You're claiming what Biden has already done, and your evidence is a public statement that he made -- which don't get me wrong, was a shitty one to make. You haven't proved though that Biden or Democrats as a whole told the police to do that and shoot with rubber bullets and painted them all as violent. In your own link, Biden makes a very clear differentiation between peaceful and violent protest, and he says the former is a bedrock American principle. Your own link contradicts what you're describing and doesn't support your claims. It says blatantly that Biden won't use the national guard, which is the actual enforcing power that the president has.
Come on, there's plenty to criticize Biden and Democrats on with Israel without making leaps and lumping everyone together. I have respect for a lot of the points and arguments you've made in the past, but this isn't it. This is just sensationalism not grounded in reality.
I could bring up Biden being the top recipient of AIPAC money as well.
I have also proven that the Democrats were intentionally violently repressing peaceful protests against Genocide.
I even posted a video of them pumping rubber bullets into protesters before look https://lemmy.world/post/14942817
There is plenty to criticize Biden and the democrats on regarding israel. The Democrats violently repressing peaceful protests CCP style is one of those things.
Fearmongering that Trump would do something does not have the same impact if the Dems are already doing it.
Third party all the way.
No. This shit had been going on well before Trump
And it's going to continue going on because both sides are controlled by israel.
Not entirely. There's a lot of pro Israel money but a shift in public perception may well shift the political calculus
Biden has been trying to throw his election chances for the past 7 months. And the Republican side isn't shifting much to begin with they love killing brown people. At this point the only thing that will shift is how hard Biden tries to gaslight people that he is wagging his finger at Netanyahu.
Not going to disagree with the fact that Biden seems to be doing his best to lose
Thereby electing Trump