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[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

Just hedging against "actually, attraction is a subjective experience" by vaguely waving your arms at some "widely held" conventions no one can provide documentation for.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

Societal beauty standards are a real thing... They aren't completely organic, set in stone, or inherently good or valid or anything like that but they do exist

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Right, I wouldn't want to imply otherwise.

My point is about how years of "X is beauty" "actually beauty is subjective" discourse may have conditioned people to preemptively hedge their statements.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago
[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

No worries, between your and Ishmael's response I immediately realized I did a poor job communicating that.

[-] Ishmael@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't think documentation is really necessary when pretty much all media in the US portrays white, young, thin, slightly athletically toned, clear-skinned, white-toothed, symmetrical-faced people with societally-approved matching gender characteristics as "attractive". Characters who exhibit those traits are portrayed/coded as attractive, and they are the people put in front of the camera on things like the news. Just saying "attractive" when talking about someone with those features is basically saying that anyone who does not have those features is inherently not attractive, when in reality many people have different opinions on what they find attractive.

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

To be honest the line about documentation was just me being venomous, and referring to people using arguments they can't actually articulate themselves. My entire point is just they are hedging their statements.

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