I was writing an essay about the difference between Andrew Tate, female dating strategy, and the RETVRN types, but I started to think about how all of them have a bunch of prescriptions for what men consoom, how they emote, and how they engage with society. I think the difference in opinion on what men consoom is negligible between the different subfactions.

I don't think a leftist movement has a good alternative to offer a disaffected politically agnostic young man who wants a relationship besides the opportunity to cleanly disengage with people who are demanding they stop drinking lemonade, but you didn't really ask that. Perhaps in that case, when a RETVRN type is trying to tell men that in their utopia women will step back in line and be obedient, it's just important to always be ready to tell people that fascism has always been obsessed with aesthetics and it never sits flush with reality so while we don't have a good answer, it's better than an actively harmful answer that brings you further from what you want.

It's one of those things where you have to be offered something but have to refuse it because reasons.