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Seeing a lot of this lately...
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Pretty fucking relevant in this thread it seems.
You know the US does this too, right?
But unironically also vote for Biden. I wish there was more acknowledgement that there has to be some way to pressure a candidate to earn votes, being much less bad isn't going to get the 50k low info swing voters that decide the election
I'm not disagreeing.
Yes, but when we do it it's for the greater good. Not the same.
Impossible to determine if sarcasm or troll without tag
Sarcasm actually
Also apologies for posting it twice, it wasn't that funny
glad they posted it twice so we can all play both sides, upvote one in case it's sarcasm, downvote the other in case of troll.
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a secret agent"
No, not everyone that disagrees with me is a secret agent. A good chunk of them are. The rest are the idiots that believe and agree with them.
I'm still waiting for a good argument about how no voting or voting 3rd party gets better outcomes.
Maybe I'm the idiot for thinking there might be a good argument for it. Who knows?
Like any good conspiracy, it accounts for any possible contrary evidence one might encounter. If you find someone you disagree with irl, or someone online who doesn't seems like a secret agent, then it's simple - they're just people who have been manipulated by secret agents! The secret agents are still surrounding you and influencing every aspect of your life, regardless of silly things like "evidence" or "falsifiability." It's completely indistinguishable from a schizophrenic convinced they're surrounded by lizard people.
It's pretty simple. In a negotiation, having a credible threat of not cooperating gives you more bargaining power than if you show up like, "I will accept any deal you give me, I need this!" Voting is a negotiation. If politicians know that you'll vote for them no matter what you do, then they have no reason to listen to your concerns, whereas if you say, "I'll only vote for you if you do this, otherwise I'll vote third party" then they have an incentive to do the thing in order to earn your vote.
This means you know that your actions will have a greater chance of getting Trump elected, which means you value [whatever policy change you're looking for] more than [the difference between Biden and Trump]
Don't they only have an incentive to do the thing if the third party you vote for instead has a chance to beat them? Which will never be the case unless we see voting reform.
"I'm unable to grasp nuance" There's one of you in every thread.
This is the definition of bad faith, kids.
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Sure.